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Call then Fold?



Posted Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:11 am GMT by RxC
Okay so I'm playing hold em. 1v1, the person goes ALL IN. Then I said I call it. Then I thought to myself "nah I don't want to go all in". Then I said nevermind I don't want to, I fold. Does this mean I called his all-in and then I folded. Therfore I just gave him the chips freely? Please clarify, I want to know if I am allowed to retract my all in.

Another thing, once I said I folded, I then said no I'll go all-in. So this is a very confusing situation.


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Posted Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:50 am GMT by fonzerelli_79
in a real life situation i think if you said you would call it you should call it
as at this point a lot of of people will show you there cards when you call them



Posted Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:28 am GMT by galderon
In most house rules, verbal declarations are binding, and string bets aren't allowed. I'd say that if you change your mind and make two conflicting actions, that's technically a string bet, and thus, the first action stands, and the second is ignored. "I call, no wait I fold" is a call. You can keep your hand or throw it away as you wish (the fold isn't binding), but you must match the bet in any case.

It depends on how casual a game you're playing and who your opponents are. The best you can do is say, "I call...no wait, I want to fold, will you make an exception and let me fold this hand?" We usually give one mulligan (mistake) to every player for each game night...we tease them a bit about their mistake, but let the first one slide. Every mistake from then on is enforced to the letter of the law (by which I mean the house rules).



Posted Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:05 am GMT by dakine
RxC wrote:
Okay so I'm playing hold em. 1v1, the person goes ALL IN. Then I said I call it. Then I thought to myself "nah I don't want to go all in". Then I said nevermind I don't want to, I fold. Does this mean I called his all-in and then I folded. Therfore I just gave him the chips freely? Please clarify, I want to know if I am allowed to retract my all in.

Another thing, once I said I folded, I then said no I'll go all-in. So this is a very confusing situation.


And they still let you play? Amazing. Rolling Eyes



Posted Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:37 am GMT by RxC
dakine wrote:
RxC wrote:
Okay so I'm playing hold em. 1v1, the person goes ALL IN. Then I said I call it. Then I thought to myself "nah I don't want to go all in". Then I said nevermind I don't want to, I fold. Does this mean I called his all-in and then I folded. Therfore I just gave him the chips freely? Please clarify, I want to know if I am allowed to retract my all in.

Another thing, once I said I folded, I then said no I'll go all-in. So this is a very confusing situation.


And they still let you play? Amazing. Rolling Eyes


Please, flames are dumb, especially over a forum, no one cares. Anyways, more feedback please.



Posted Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:46 am GMT by ZIPPY
I don't think you just experienced a flame, just a point of view!!!

In the game I play, your first bet would have been binding, and what made you change your mind? If it was the look on your opponent's face when you called, then your post shows the power to a player, and hence "illegality" of string betting.



Posted Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:39 am GMT by Dias
You called, period.

We've had players try to do this move in our home games....either going all-in...getting called and trying to re-nig their all-in. Or saying all-in...then trying to say they never bet by placing chips.

Most games, the verbal declaration of the action binds.

Example....10 handed game, one person raised to just 2x BB, eeryone folds to small blind, who re-raises fairly large. the guy on the big blind was distracted and said "I call" thinking it was still just 2x BB. he then realizes how large the bet was, but was forced to call. he had 10 4 off in his hand...would never have called the large bet....he then proceeded to flop the nuts and put the small blind out. Wink

but point is....verbal binds.






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