Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:48 am GMT by maxse
Hello every1 Im a newbie. I just oredered a set of Copags for my home game. I only played Poker like 5 timesw in my life but I am starting to love it. I have a question though. I played a couple of times at home with friends and what really slows down the time is shuffling!
Can any1 reccoemnd a good way to shuffle the deck since I will have 2. Are the automatic shufflers any good? they are only like $20 so I'm a little skeptical but if they work well thats fine. Any suggestions?
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Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:56 am GMT by gmunny
For home games that I play in we use 2 decks and one player always washes/shuffles the deck after they just dealt. They should shuffle the deck during the hand so it is ready by the start of the next hand. As long as this happens there should be no real delay between hands. The deck is cut by the person between the player who just shuffled and the dealer.
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Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:16 pm GMT by maxse
sounds like a good idea, thanks. But basically there is no way around shuffling it manually each time, right?
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:49 pm GMT by PanthersHUTCH15
There are card shufflers, but my experience with them have been that they are very noisy, they get in the way of the game, and they slow the game down.
At my home game, I also use 2 decks of cards and the next dealer shuffles while the current dealer is dealing, plus since they are late to act, it doesn't really affect them during the hand.
You can get a cheap shuffler for 10 bucks if you want to give it a try, but I tried and did not like it.
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:01 pm GMT by PocketRocket
You'll find that $20 shuffler for $10 under one of the USPC names (Bicycle or Bee) at your local Target store. The same shuffler is sold on websites generally for more, sometimes over $20. They're also available in AKKO Intl. packaging at a lot of websites and small local stores (again usually for much more.) The shufflers operate on 9V batteries, they're a bit loud and kind of slow, but it may save some wear and tear on your cards depending upon how you shuffle. Overall, I'd say that one could probably shuffle a deck faster manually.
| maxse wrote: | Hello every1 Im a newbie. I just oredered a set of Copags for my home game. I only played Poker like 5 timesw in my life but I am starting to love it. I have a question though. I played a couple of times at home with friends and what really slows down the time is shuffling!
Can any1 reccoemnd a good way to shuffle the deck since I will have 2. Are the automatic shufflers any good? they are only like $20 so I'm a little skeptical but if they work well thats fine. Any suggestions? |
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:20 pm GMT by Abused Rib
Here is how my little group does it.
Using 2 decks at a table, let's say a hand has just finished and the next deck is shuffled and ready. As the next hand is dealt, the previous dealer takes the just-finished hand and shuffles them while people are still looking at their cards and such so that they're ready by the time the current hand finishes. After the hand is finished, the shuffled deck is passed to the new just-finished dealer and he may cut it. After the cut, it is passed to the left again to the new dealer. You may want to do the pass cut pass during the current hand in order speed things up more. The just-finished dealer now gathers up the finished cards, shuffles, and starts the cycle over.
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:06 pm GMT by Fins
I'll 2nd the 2nd deck as the best way to go 
The shufflers are more of a pain than they're worth IMHO.
- Fins
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:11 pm GMT by maxse
I see thanks guys. The problem is that I am not very good ni shuffling and so are a bunch of people oh well... Howcome there aren't any decent shufflers around for us average people? I am thinking of making my own table and if only there was a shuffler I can mount underneath like in the real casinos that would be awesome.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:03 am GMT by MeridianFC
1. The shufflers made for home games are crap and really not that fast.
2. It's not hard to speed up manual shuffling, just practice. I know that doesn't provide the immediate grafitication we all seek, but it's a good investment in the future of your poker game. It took a while but it's not hard to get the scramble, shuffle, shuffle, riffle, shuffle thing down.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:58 pm GMT by Fins
| maxse wrote: | <snip>
The problem is that I am not very good ni shuffling and so are a bunch of people oh well... <snip> |
FYI - posted on 2+2...
SHUFFLING
Poster unknown
riffle-riffle-box-riffle-riffle-riffle-box-riffle-box
Riffle:
1. Line them up long edge to long edge.
2. Left hand grips left side of left deck with pinky and ring,
while index and middle fingers are on top of the deck and thumb
is on the inside, lifting the half of the deck.
3. Right thumb is on the inside of the right deck below the
left thumb, lifting the right deck, index finger on top of
right deck applying pressure, other 3 fingers stabilizing deck
on right side.
4. Lift inside of both decks with thumbs while applying inward
force with all outer fingers
5. Rotate deck 90 degrees to re-cut into two stacks, repeat.
Box:
1. Cut off the top 15 cards or so and place them off to the
right as a new stack
2. Cut off another 10-20 cards repeatedly and place atop the
new stack until complete.
DEALING:
Poster unknown
For right handers:
- Hold deck in left hand with the front edge slightly downward
and push a card to the right with your thumb. You need to be
able to get exactly one card. As you practice the card will
push off very consistently. Practice sliding it off and back
on a few times.
- Now when you slide your card off, pinch it between the right
thumb and index finger while laying your middle finger along
the right edge.
- In one motion, lift the left thumb and extend the right
middle finger without moving your hands. *bing* The card just
flew like a frizbee (we hope).
Do this slowly and deliberately at first to practice the
push/straighten/release motion. Make sure you keep the "nose"
of the deck pointed slightly downward. Do not let your hands
change position relative to each other. At first, pitch straight
across from yourself. Then, set up your poker table and practice
pitching to piles of chips. As you move around the table, "walk"
it with your shoulders so you don't have to move your hands/arms
much. Add beers, smokes, ashtrays... whatever is normally there
as you get better. Once you can do that you'll be able to
entertain yourself and small children by pitching cards across
the room into a hat. By this time you'll probably be the dealer
for your home games and you'll be sick of it. This is when you
should learn how to second and bottom deal. Then show your
friends you can do it. Then you don't have to deal any more
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:41 pm GMT by slowplayray
| Fins wrote: | This is when you
should learn how to second and bottom deal. Then show your
friends you can do it. Then you don't have to deal any more |
that's hilarious!
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