UB gives the worst bad beats |
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Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:01 am GMT by greathuskie
ive been a 4:1 favorite or more 5 times today in 3 sngs, and ive lost every time
here is one of them
Hand #3953671-64 at SnG-0019f (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 11/Jan/05 00:58:42
Wildenrose is at seat 1 with 2075.
sdahlberg is at seat 2 with 2030.
Mirada Mama is at seat 4 with 605.
greathuskie is at seat 5 with 2840.
tinyfish is at seat 6 with 1220.
dp13 is at seat 7 with 1230.
The button is at seat 7.
Wildenrose posts the small blind of 50.
sdahlberg posts the big blind of 100.
Wildenrose: -- --
sdahlberg: -- --
Mirada Mama: -- --
greathuskie: Kd Jh
tinyfish: -- --
dp13: -- --
Pre-flop:
Mirada Mama raises to 200. greathuskie calls.
tinyfish folds. dp13 folds. Wildenrose folds.
sdahlberg calls.
Flop (board: Kc 5s Jc):
sdahlberg checks. Mirada Mama goes all-in for 405.
greathuskie raises to 1865. sdahlberg folds.
greathuskie is returned 1460 (uncalled).
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
Mirada Mama shows 2d Ad.
greathuskie shows Kd Jh.
Turn (board: Kc 5s Jc 4c):
(no action in this round)
River (board: Kc 5s Jc 4c 3d):
(no action in this round)
Showdown:
Mirada Mama has 2d Ad 5s 4c 3d: straight, five high.
greathuskie has Kd Jh Kc 5s Jc: two pair, kings and jacks.
Hand #3953671-64 Summary:
No rake is taken for this hand.
Mirada Mama wins 1460 with straight, five high.
an unreal bad beat
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Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:12 am GMT by greathuskie
Hand #3953671-88 at SnG-0019f (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 11/Jan/05 01:11:11
Wildenrose is at seat 1 with 1500.
sdahlberg is at seat 2 with 4350.
greathuskie is at seat 5 with 1780.
tinyfish is at seat 6 with 2370.
The button is at seat 6.
Wildenrose posts the small blind of 100.
sdahlberg posts the big blind of 200.
Wildenrose: -- --
sdahlberg: -- --
greathuskie: Qh Tc
tinyfish: -- --
Pre-flop:
greathuskie calls. tinyfish folds. Wildenrose
calls. sdahlberg checks.
Flop (board: 4s Qc Js):
Wildenrose checks. sdahlberg bets 475. greathuskie
goes all-in for 1580. Wildenrose folds. sdahlberg
calls.
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
sdahlberg shows 9h Qd.
greathuskie shows Qh Tc.
Turn (board: 4s Qc Js 9d):
(no action in this round)
River (board: 4s Qc Js 9d Ac):
(no action in this round)
Showdown:
sdahlberg has 9h Qd Qc 9d Ac: two pair, queens and nines.
greathuskie has Qh Tc Qc Js Ac: a pair of queens.
Hand #3953671-88 Summary:
No rake is taken for this hand.
sdahlberg wins 3760 with two pair, queens and nines.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:26 am GMT by greathuskie
10 minutes later
Hand #3954083-14 at SnG-0024j (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 11/Jan/05 01:24:51
cornluva is at seat 0 with 2575.
greathuskie is at seat 1 with 895.
jliu19 is at seat 2 with 890.
NeddyFlanders is at seat 3 with 700.
Jucory is at seat 4 with 785.
johnjohn3141 is at seat 5 with 955.
faketree is at seat 7 with 1180.
KLoverAKQJT is at seat 9 with 2020.
The button is at seat 1.
jliu19 posts the small blind of 10.
NeddyFlanders posts the big blind of 20.
cornluva: -- --
greathuskie: 6c 6d
jliu19: -- --
NeddyFlanders: -- --
Jucory: -- --
johnjohn3141: -- --
faketree: -- --
KLoverAKQJT: -- --
Pre-flop:
Jucory folds. johnjohn3141 folds. faketree calls.
KLoverAKQJT calls. cornluva folds. greathuskie
raises to 40. jliu19 calls. NeddyFlanders calls.
faketree calls. KLoverAKQJT re-raises to 220.
greathuskie calls. jliu19 folds. NeddyFlanders
folds. faketree folds.
Flop (board: 9h 7s 4d):
KLoverAKQJT bets 200. greathuskie goes all-in for
675. KLoverAKQJT calls.
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
greathuskie shows 6c 6d.
KLoverAKQJT shows Ks Ac.
Turn (board: 9h 7s 4d 3s):
(no action in this round)
River (board: 9h 7s 4d 3s Kh):
(no action in this round)
Showdown:
greathuskie has 6c 6d 9h 7s Kh: a pair of sixes.
KLoverAKQJT has Ks Ac 9h 7s Kh: a pair of kings.
Hand #3954083-14 Summary:
No rake is taken for this hand.
KLoverAKQJT wins 1910 with a pair of kings.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:54 am GMT by flafishy
I dont' have anything to say about the first two except that stuff does happen.
But the 66 all-in against a betting-out chipleader and two overs on the board might not have been your best play ever. At best, you have to figure you have a coinflip, which is what you ended up with -- and that was best-case scenario.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:51 am GMT by 1988 TR
| flafishy wrote: | I dont' have anything to say about the first two except that stuff does happen.
But the 66 all-in against a betting-out chipleader and two overs on the board might not have been your best play ever. At best, you have to figure you have a coinflip, which is what you ended up with -- and that was best-case scenario. |
Try again - He was a 76% favorite after the flop with the 66. NOT a coin flip. Was only a coin flip pre-flop.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:31 pm GMT by flafishy
You are correct. I was thinking preflop. My bad.
Still, I don't like the all-in push at all -- against someone who has been leading the betting with more than 2x my stack and with two overs on the board. Though I question big-stack's call, I don't object to that nearly as much as the push. Why such a big risk so early with a hand that is questionable at best?
You already had told the guy you had doubts about your hand with a weak raise preflop and then only a call of his reraise. With nothing scary on the flop, and then you jump off the cliff and raise all-in, that tells me you don't have dick and you're just trying to push me off.
I maybe call the raise and hope for a 6 on the turn. But more than likely, I fold and wait for the next opportunity.
Also, we've had this discussion before, but I maintain that putting in a minimum raise like that preflop at the low blind levels is worse than just limping in. That weak raise tells me you're not sure if you have a hand or not, that you can't make up your mind and you're looking to get lucky. At least if you just limp in, I'm going to be wary of you if there's a decent flop.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:37 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
you know what causes bad beats?
playing poker.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:47 pm GMT by flafishy
| wEbMaStEr wrote: | you know what causes bad beats?
playing poker. |
Exactly.
And if you can't take the bad beats, then you probably shouldn't be swimming with the fishes and should find another hobby.
Embrace those bad beats. Make them work for you. Even if somebody nails you on a bad beat, there are ways to take advantage of that. But you'll never figure out how if you're focused on whining about them.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:07 pm GMT by Geno
| wEbMaStEr wrote: | you know what causes bad beats?
playing poker. |
Amen. I think people need to take a deep breath after a bad run, then sleep on it and THEN decide whether they need to post about how they are 'done with online poker' because IN THE LONG RUN IF YOU PLAY SMART, YOU WILL WIN. Hang in there, live to fight another day.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:34 pm GMT by greathuskie
only good thing i can say is i got my money in with hte best hand every time..
anyways another hand from earlier in the day
im BB with 46
flop comes 578, dream flop
i bet minimum to get some money in the pot, rather have alot of callers for a little money then one for a considerable amount considering i have almost hte best possible hand on the board, 4 callers, turn comes another 7, ok the board paired ill bet again to see what happens
3 callers
river comes 7
whoever didnt have a full house sure as hell has one now
guy flips over 10-8 for the win
i was a 95% favorite to win the hand
another time in the same sng i caught an ace high flush on the turn, guy calls with 2 pair
river trips his kicker
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:48 pm GMT by Scott1101
Why is the topic name "UB gives the worst beats"? Do you have evidence that UB is rigged? If so, let us know.
Have you switched sites ? If the answer is 'no', then god help you for continuing to play at a site that is rigged against you.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:14 pm GMT by flafishy
| Quote: | only good thing i can say is i got my money in with hte best hand every time..
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Most of the time, that's all you can do.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:42 pm GMT by campbeas
I don't really see much for "Bad Beats" such as Dave handed a gentleman on the 1st. 2 pair getting busted by a straight draw....one pair busted by 2 pair....66 broken by AK....
These happen everyday to half of the people on these froums. I get low pp broken by worse hands then AK every f*ck day. I've had AA broken by 23o, is that a bad beat? Nope, not by my definition.
Aces Full getting rivered and beat by QQQQ is a bad beat. Losing a small pot to 2 pair isn't.
Sorry I don't mean to sound like an ass, but most poker players suffer these losses daily, and I've never heard anyone call any of them bad beats. Sure they are upset over the bad luck on the river but really all those hands were just races and you didn't cross the line first.
I concider bad beats when you completely outplay your opponent and you know you have the superious hand be a long shot, but he calls anyways and then proceeds to hit both of his two outers and take the pot with Aces Full or Quads.
Posted Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:30 pm GMT by greathuskie
a beat beat to me is if have i have a 75% chance or more of winning but i dont
Posted Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:45 am GMT by campbeas
Well your not gonna get the bad beat jack pot having your pair of 6's busted by AK I'll tell you that.
Posted Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:26 pm GMT by Imajica1975
A bad beat is when you come home at 6am from playing poker, with the understanding that your wife will be asleep as she usually is, only to find that she packed her suitcase and left you at 2am.
That, my friends, is a bad beat.
Posted Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:32 pm GMT by Scott1101
| greathuskie wrote: | | a beat beat to me is if have i have a 75% chance or more of winning but i dont |
You must have forgotten to answer my last post but thanks for your definition of bad beats. Please scroll up or just tell me if you have evidence that UB gives the worst beats. I play on UB occassionally and don't want to play on a site that is predisposed towards giving me bad beats. Please let me know.
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