Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:48 pm GMT by saper88aa
Ok so me and a couple of friends are watching rounders the otherday.Ok the part when Mike get his money from the cigar box, i noticed that their were some chips in the box. I looked and noticed that the chips have an E on them. Hmmm Exactly like the ones used when they play the cops.
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Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:14 pm GMT by Danny KGB
how is that a flaw?
Posted Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:47 pm GMT by saper88aa
I'm not really sure.I just found it odd that they mad a prop mess up
Posted Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:29 am GMT by KingHenry
well you know i think they do make more than one set of the same chips.
Posted Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:56 am GMT by xhi
And the prop gal says, " Screw it. Who will ever remember what chips were used in the cop game."
Posted Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:26 pm GMT by saper88aa
I did :D
Posted Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:50 am GMT by woodendart
does it cause you to enjoy the movie less?
Posted Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:48 am GMT by Buddha
and why is it a blunder? How many people have the Crystal Oyster chips, or how many people have the Eqygtians now? More than one, and they are at more than one game.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:22 pm GMT by saper88aa
yes but these look like custom chip that only one place would have.
Posted Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:26 pm GMT by Cjwr42
don't you possibly think that the poker chip company, in some wild scheme to actually turn a profit, made more than one set of the same chips? i mean, it sounds crazy and totally against the posulates of capitalism, but its possible.
Posted Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:32 pm GMT by howzit
| Quote: | | don't you possibly think that the poker chip company, in some wild scheme to actually turn a profit, made more than one set of the same chips? i mean, it sounds crazy and totally against the posulates of capitalism, but its possible. |
um. . .. maybe in the case of hand bags and suitcases.
Chip companies and casinos only lose if players bring in counterfeit chips.
Nice try though.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:58 pm GMT by Himbo
Totally off topic but still keeping with the Rounders theme. I watched it last night again and for the life of me I cannot figure out what KGB's tell is.
Does he
a) eat either the frosted side or the bare side, depending on his hand?
B) does he hold it up to a different ear when he cracks it
c) does he break the cookie keeping the frosting on a certain side
I can't seem to find a correlation between the beginning and the end.
Anyone care to spell it out for me?
Jason
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:17 pm GMT by Geno
He only breaks the Oreo twice next to his ear in the movie - both times he is holding the nut hand......
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:05 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I just thought he liked Oreos. There was more to it?
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:43 pm GMT by cayouche
| Himbo wrote: | Totally off topic but still keeping with the Rounders theme. I watched it last night again and for the life of me I cannot figure out what KGB's tell is.
Does he
a) eat either the frosted side or the bare side, depending on his hand?
B) does he hold it up to a different ear when he cracks it
c) does he break the cookie keeping the frosting on a certain side
I can't seem to find a correlation between the beginning and the end.
Anyone care to spell it out for me?
Jason |
Geno is half right. Actually, he breaks off his cookie 3 times.
1) Right at the beginning, after the flop, when Mike goes broke. He broke it to his ear.
2) At the end, frist hand, Mike has KK. Raised preflop, KGB reraised, Mike goes all-in. He broke it in front of him (not to his ear), and folded.
3) Later in that game, the flop being A-3-5, Mike holding top two pairs, KGB breaks another one to his ear, Mike sees the tell and folds.
So there you go, that's it. To his ear meant he had it.
Posted Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:48 pm GMT by CodeNull
err, I thought he ate the cookie if he had it, when he is up against KK, and folds, he puts the cookie back together, and puts it down, every other time, he ate it, or at least took a bite out of it.
Posted Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:53 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Who cares about tells! The movie sucked, they had the _same chips_ at two different locations!
What are the odds. 
Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:22 am GMT by groton
lol
so the moral of the story is if your playing a crazy russian Eating a Cookie watch where he Takes apart.
Posted Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:50 pm GMT by Lunkan
Is it not a bit stupid thing to do by such a good player as KGB?
Posted Wed May 18, 2005 5:59 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
yeah, its a pretty obvious tell for a good player 
but i guess they had to dumb it down at least a little for non-poker sharks...
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 8:03 am GMT by Lunkan
Another flaw I have thought of in Rounders, is that in his apartment, Mike has a horseshoe on the door. A symbol of luck for someone who does not believe in luck?
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 12:18 am GMT by snoogins47
| Lunkan wrote: | | Another flaw I have thought of in Rounders, is that in his apartment, Mike has a horseshoe on the door. A symbol of luck for someone who does not believe in luck? |
I'm pretty sure that's no flaw.
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 9:10 am GMT by Lunkan
But it is a bit strange at least ...
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:14 am GMT by JohnnyCache
You don't know enough real mikes. Trust me, no matter what he said, he believed in luck while he drove that truck. :D
I wasn't under the impression KGB was a super player, I just thought he had teh money.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:29 pm GMT by Ensano
I don't think that KGB seemed like that good of a player... honestly... playing against someone at those stakes and they starts talking garbage about your hand... telling you that they're only calling because they think you have nothing..."Position raise... I call"... then again check-calling on the turn... even at low stakes bells and whistles start to go off for me if that were to happen in a cash game... maybe i'm just a passive player but i think I'd be getting all in if that situation...
Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:28 am GMT by dvnielsen
When Mike is playing KGB for the second time, right before he throws his Oreos they are almost gone but in the next shot it is almost a half full again.
In the second to last scene of the movie where Mike is playing heads-up with Teddy KGB, there is an inconsistency in the bets that are made. Previously in the movie, the black chips are shown to be worth $100 each. When Mike raises $1000 straight, he places 20 chips down, a total of $2000.
When KGB and Mike are playing heads up in the end of the film and Mike is dealing the cards he first deals the "turn card" i.e. the fourth community card and then deals the "river", fifth community card, without discarding one card. In Texas Hold 'em you always take the top card away when dealing the community cards because cards can be marked and by doing so no-one will know which cards are coming even if some of them are marked.
Those are copied from moviemistakes.com
Yours faithfully
Daniel Nielsen
Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:20 am GMT by General Sal
LOL Nice with the movie mistakes.com... wow someone out there actually compiles all this.
Geno, by the way, he doesn't break it when he has the nuts. If he did it at the beginning of the movie, then he would have to have four 9s, and Mikey would have aces full. But, near nuts is good enough. For a moderator and poker player, I am giving you too much credit.
(He he... see you in Vegas!)
Oh, I think one thing that was interesting was I was watching a tape of a Mike Caro seminar. I think he was saying how his methods were worth lots of money. If they weren't, then why would the Rounders director have Mike pull $10,000 out of a book (or maybe it was a vcr case) in an opening shot of the movie? The audience chuckled at that one.
Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:47 am GMT by Muck
| General Sal wrote: | | Oh, I think one thing that was interesting was I was watching a tape of a Mike Caro seminar. I think he was saying how his methods were worth lots of money. If they weren't, then why would the Rounders director have Mike pull $10,000 out of a book (or maybe it was a vcr case) in an opening shot of the movie? |
I'm pretty sure it’s an empty video case since no player would ever cut up the book version up to make a hiding place 
Speaking of books don’t they show Super Systems 2 on a table as well.
Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:24 am GMT by ShoelessJoe
It's Super System 1, and jesus, it was a good movie. Just watch it an enjoy it.
Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:09 am GMT by General Sal
Oh man... I can't believe this. I have to quote this book I found who actually had something to comment on the movie. It was kind of funny to stumble upon this topic and then to be reading this passage.
| Quote: | | In the wonderful poker movie The Rounders Teddy-KGB is undone when Matt Damon's character discovers his tell. If Teddy holds an Oreo cookie to his ear, breaks it, and eats it, he has a monster hand. (He's psychologically devouring his opponent, you see.) If he merely listens to it break and puts it back into the tray, he's bluffing. |
I love the part about how's he "psychologically devouring his opponent." Although I'm not sure if I agree that's it's a psychological consumption. Maybe, a methaphorical one in the sense that he's about to eat up a bankroll like a cookie. Either way, I'll shoot anyone $5 in PartyPoker money or UB money if they can tell me the name of the author of the book and the title of the book in the next 15 minutes. We'll use the time of the post as the running clock.
Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:10 pm GMT by saper88aa
i guess no one won
and i do like that part about devouring oeros,c ya
Posted Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:45 pm GMT by Karredas
What bugs me the most is the way Worm never hands the deck to be cut when he deals. Considering his rep, and the kind of people he plays with, this is quite the heavy flaw according to me...
Posted Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:51 am GMT by Muck
Haha, yea I doubt illegal poker dens run in smoky, seedy basements work on the honour system
Posted Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:37 pm GMT by Karredas
For sure, but cutting is one of the basic rules of poker, like shuffling, no matter how honorable is the place you play in. You realise the guy never cuts, he's gotta comply or leave the game altogether, especially in that kind of seedy place...It's the reason why I still think it's a flaw, and a big one at that!
Posted Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:20 pm GMT by Ciso_B
Sal, was it harrington on hold em volume 1? Cant remember but i definitely read is somewhere.
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