Paulson Home Sample chips review is up... |
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Posted Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:34 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
...in case anyone is interested. 
http://www.pokerchipreviews.com/compression.html#PaulsonHome
The site is mid-way in a major over-haul, so thanks for your patience.
Thanks folks,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
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Posted Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:51 pm GMT by Nickmast
Like I just posted in the other thread. These samples dont look up to par and the weight ????, whats up with that?
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:25 am GMT by Fat Tony
john, excellent information as always!
i'm assuming that the paulson home chips will not be sold exactly as pictured with the phone # and website address on them. that said, the look damn good, except i think they would look alot better if they simply said "paulson" instead of "paulson chips"
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:45 am GMT by pokerchipreviews
Yeah...the 'real' home Paulsons will be the 'Casino de Isthmus' aka James Bond chips. Originally done by Paulson, they've been produced by Blue Chip for the past few years when Paulson exited the consumer market.
Now...Paulson's back.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:54 am GMT by duma
im still waiting to see what the actual home paulsons will look like though. the inlay is much smaller on those than the "demo" chips that were reviewed.
Standard 7/8" (Casion de Isthmus)
Grand 1 1/16" (Paulson Demo chip)
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:23 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
Hey John,
Thanks for the info. Great site.
If I am not mistaken, your score for the NJ Clays were 10's across the board. Now it looks like they have went down, any reason for this?
The reason I ask, is that I am very interested in getting a set of the new paulson chips, but prior to the announcement of their release, I was eyeballing the NJ clays, because it seems as thought they were getting the highest reviews. Even though we haven't seen the design of the new PC's, I'm interested to see which chip you would take in a grudge match the new PC's or the NJC's, since you have seen and handled both, and I am working off of only internet thumbnails.
Thanks
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:59 pm GMT by Deakon
I noticed the same thing too. I bought a 300 chip set of NJ clays because of the score and I am very impressed with them, but I was wondering why the drop in score also.I have samples of ASM and the Kings chips and I still like the NJ better. It seems that the recent durability test also shows how well these chips were put together.
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:22 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
Yes...I tweak many of the scores pretty often as new chips come in. The NJ's are GREAT chips, but they are not as good as the Vineyard and the new Home Paulson chips. Since adjusting my scale from 1-10 to 1-11 doesn't really make any sense, I pushed the NJ's down a tad. They may change again in the future. The Matsui chips I have...which the review will go up this weekend...are just stunning. As much as I like 'clay' chips....these Matsui's (they are plastic chips) just blow me away.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:14 pm GMT by Deakon
Are those chips sold to the public or are they just found in the casino? I have heard some people mention them before, but I don't think I have seen any yet.
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:00 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
They will sell any chip of their's for a minimum of 500 to a 1000 chips per order (The 500 or 1000 depends on a few things...). That's 500 or 1000 of the SAME chip.
I'm hoping to catch the ear of one of the US chip stores and encourage them to bring some in. They are currently available as the Bud Jones coin centered clone chips (reviewed on my site). Those chips really aren't that great...but some of their OTHER chips are just stunning. Not very many people know about the really nice ones.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:55 pm GMT by ledavatar
Hello everyone. This is my first post but I've been lurking here for a while. I've just been obsessed with poker and poker chips for the past few months and it was just a matter of time before I stumbled the forums.
I actually have quite a few Matsui chips that a friend of a friend was able to get for me after my constant naggings. Surprisingly my favorite type of chip out of the bunch are the Decals (the purple/green/yellow/red/white/blue/black ones w/ the M in the center), which are plastic. They are stunningly beautiful and have great balance and weight. They feel better than Bud Jones and do not stick to each other. Here are some pics. I have more chips than these (75 total of various types), but this is the gist of them.
    
    
    
    
    
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:51 pm GMT by Deakon
Are those green chips with the gold star-looking inlay Matsui as well. Those are some of the best looking chips I have ever seen!
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:59 pm GMT by ledavatar
Yes, all the chip pics are Matsui. That green chips is called the "Gold Coin" chip and are a combination of brass/plastic. They're fairly heavy and work great as card protectors but unfortunately hand oil/sweat blackens the brass quickly. They're too beautiful to ruin by my grubby hands.
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:02 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
At a time when the home market really needs a fire lit under it with something new, bold and daring:
here come these.
These chips are worthy of their own thread I must say.
I can only imagine what this company could do with clays.
Looking forward to the review John
Posted Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:51 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
I looked around on the Matsui site. Seems real casino oriented much like GPI gaming. It does appear that they make clay chips as well. If they will really sell in bundles of 500-1000, I'm would guess that they will be popping up on vendors sites at some point.
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:56 am GMT by ledavatar
I thought about that as well. The problem is that Matsui indeed costs a lot. The clay ones are nice but not fully customizable - you can have an inlay picture but there are only 2 choices of edge spot (the 3x single bands a là ASM or 3x double edge spots - they're in the pics I posted). The per chip cost is $0.75/0.85 respectively for blank ones. God knows what they will charge for the custom inlays.
As for the Decal chips, it is $0.90 for the 2 color and $1.00 for the 3 color. Artwork fees for customized design in the center is $250/pattern and quite tolerable, but to truly change the design (the outer ring surrounding the center inlay (like Bud Jones), it will run $2,000/pattern. I guess it's nice to have the option of changing it.
I would personally love a group buy for the Decal chips, but I don't think enough people has seen or know about it to want to sample such an expensive chip, much less getting a full set. Matsui does give volume discounts, but they're only about 5 cents off the per chip price on 10-20,000 chips.
Expensive as they are, they are great chips. Check out the Gold Coin chips Matsui made for the Hollywood Park Casino - http://www.playhpc.com/casino_chips.shtml
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:03 am GMT by TenPercenter
| Prettey Toney wrote: |
I can only imagine what this company could do with clays.
Looking forward to the review John |
Their clays are actually very nice. Well made, consistent, and nice edgepsots. They don't do custom inlays though.
And their Gold Coin chips are great too, but they are a hefty 25 GRAMS each! Heaviest chip I've ever seen. And they cost $2.50 wholesale!. I had a mockup done of my Egpytian chips on those, that would be an incredible set. But alas... too heavy and too costly.
Ten
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:35 am GMT by The Nutz
Wow TP... tell me those wouldn't be the Cats A$$ huh!! Simply stunning. 
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:17 am GMT by CaptLego
so 10%er.... are you thinking about a $10,000 egyptian gold coin (hint, hint) ??
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:22 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
Pretty nice Ten,
But I think you already hit the jackpot with the Chipco full graphic.
You like honest opinions: Something seems contradictory with the "king's crown" molding vs. the phoaroes and kings of Egypt. The molding is European and the inlays are, well, Egyptian. Different eras, areas yknow?
Besides, I think that 25 grams are going to start putting dents onto the backs of our Kem cards when people are splashing into the muck!
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:21 pm GMT by warewulf619
I have a full Matsui sample set like the one pictured. The clays (row 3) are decent, but I just don't like the feel of them. The decal chips are pretty damn close to bud jones. The coin center chips are just crappy in my opinion. I even had my girlfriend compare the sound and feel compared to a commerce casino coin center bud jones and she agreed they sound and feel crappy. The all metal one does compare to the tangiers chips.
Posted Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:46 pm GMT by ledavatar
I agree that a $10,000 Matsui Gold Coin chip for the Egyptians would be pretty sweet. I think the minimum order is 500 chips at $2.50 each. Tooling charge for center design is $290/pattern. That should be doable and would be the ultimate collector's item even if you didn't get in on the original group buy. In defense to Ten about what Pretty Toney said about the kings crown molding - the crowns are one of Matsui's standard molds and appears on most of the chips (see the chip below). It's either very expensive (probably a couple of thousand ) to change the mold or that they simply wouldn't do it for the home market.
 
I actually like their clays a lot. If you toss one on a hard surface, you'll notice that it makes the same clacking sound as paulsons. I believe it is possible to have custom inlays (see pic on far right). They probably just recently started doing this. The hot stamp is a definite no-no. It doesn't work well with the surface texture of the chip.
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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:43 pm GMT by pokerfan
where can i get a set like those blank chips with the edge spots./img
Posted Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:38 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
OK,
Back to the original subject:
A question for John, or any one who can answer:
In Johns review he wrote:
"First off is the weight, which with these chips is NOT the hoped for 10-ish grams, but well below that at around 9.2-9.4 grams. I weighed several Vegas chips along side these to make sure the scale was in order, and all the 'real' Vegas chips came in heftier than the Paulson Homes"
Does anyone know if the weight of the fantasy home series of Paulsons such as the old "fan of card" Paulson chips were up to par with weight at the 10ish grams? Or were these old series of chips also 9.2-9.4 grams as well? Because I have a friend who owns the "naked lady" paulsons and some of the "fan of card" paulsons and I think they feel great, and have compared them to the blue chip "fan of cards" and they feel much heavier.
Just wondering if these were below weight as well, or if the "lightness" is a new occurance in the home market for a Paulson chip.
Posted Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:48 pm GMT by PocketRocket
The Paul-Son chips in casinos with the Grand inlay also weigh-in at about 9.3 gr.
| Prettey Toney wrote: | OK,
Back to the original subject:
A question for John, or any one who can answer:
In Johns review he wrote:
"First off is the weight, which with these chips is NOT the hoped for 10-ish grams, but well below that at around 9.2-9.4 grams. I weighed several Vegas chips along side these to make sure the scale was in order, and all the 'real' Vegas chips came in heftier than the Paulson Homes"
Does anyone know if the weight of the fantasy home series of Paulsons such as the old "fan of card" Paulson chips were up to par with weight at the 10ish grams? Or were these old series of chips also 9.2-9.4 grams as well? Because I have a friend who owns the "naked lady" paulsons and some of the "fan of card" paulsons and I think they feel great, and have compared them to the blue chip "fan of cards" and they feel much heavier.
Just wondering if these were below weight as well, or if the "lightness" is a new occurance in the home market for a Paulson chip. |
Posted Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:59 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
All of my casino Paulsons w/ Grand Inlay weigh significantly more than 9.3ish grams. They are all in the 9.8 - 10.3 weight range.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:44 pm GMT by PocketRocket
Should've checked my scale before posting that one; my foot wouldn't be in my mouth :D . My scale was a bit off, it became kind of obvious when I put a 10.1 TR King chip on it and it weighed in at a hefty 9.6 Though a Bellagio chip that I have only weighs in at about 9.5/9.6 (after adjusting the scale), it looks like a Paulson House Mold with a Grand Inlay (could just be the one chip). My H&Cs all weigh in at over 10gr.
| pokerchipreviews wrote: | All of my casino Paulsons w/ Grand Inlay weigh significantly more than 9.3ish grams. They are all in the 9.8 - 10.3 weight range.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com |
Posted Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:50 pm GMT by duma
http://www.playhpc.com/casino_chips.shtml
Hollywood Park has put out their annual set for Chinese New Year. It is a Matsui coin chip!
Posted Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:51 pm GMT by ott
Hollywood Park sold out of the $8 chip. The $2.50 and $5 are still available.
I got a set and sold off the extra already.
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