Posted Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:58 pm GMT by Bleakill
A new twist in my poker group: instead of regular NL holdem we started to play 5-draw  Well, i'm pretty good winning them in hold'em, but in draw its somewhat different and i tend to lose the feel. The players are basically of the same skill, not that they play it better or something. We play by somewhat crooked rules, which doesn't cripple the game and adds more action to it. We do bet-draw-bet-draw-bet , rounds like that. What should i consider and what should i lok for in draw as opposed to holdem. How do i sorta transfer my holdem skills here
yes and draw is just fun 
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Posted Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:56 am GMT by snoogins47
Hmm...
Is it Pot Limit, No Limit, Fixed limit, do the bets double after the draw?
I would be hard pressed to give you much strategy for a double draw high game, not exactly something I have much experience with. It IS double draw, right? You said bet-draw-bet-draw-bet...
However, as in any draw game...
Position, position, position. Just by paying attention to what other players have drawn, you can get a surprising amount of information.
Think about it. Somebody raises and then draws 2. What could they have? Somebody calls a raise and draws 1... what could they have?
A few draw "key" points.
1)Do not be afraid to raise pre-draw, your edges are typically pretty large if you do have an edge.
2)Don't make pointless bets. If you raise and a looser player backs in from the blind and draws 1... he's probably got a flush or straight draw right? You should rarely, if ever, bet after the draw against him, unless you have made a full house. He won't call if he missed, but he will raise if he hit, and may bluff raise anyway, which you virtually cannot call.
3)Straight/flush draws are not that great of an idea very often. You need big multiway pots, or a big bet format (pot limit/no limit) to make them worthwhile.
I'll probably make a follow up post when I think of more things
Posted Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:31 pm GMT by Bleakill
Thanks for an insightful reply but i want MORE
It is no-limit. I agree with your points, however,
1) They're loose and rather passive than aggressive (there's one who is agressive and mixes up his play but still predictable), how do get value without scaring them off ?
2) I learned that draws are worth drawing to but when should you sacrifice maybe a high pair to draw to a str./flush?
3) The game is always shorthanded (5 or less people). How should that affect the style of play?
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