Why do people call clay chips "soft"??? |
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Posted Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:40 pm GMT by ashVID
This is really a pet peeve but in my home games and on here I often see people refer to clay chips as "soft"??? I often see people referring to the rubbery composites as more clay like because of their softness. I am nowhere near the expert as some of you but I either own or have owned just about every major chip makers chip and clays are not "soft" at all.
IMHO that is like saying a brick is soft. I guess what they are trying to say is that clay chips are porous and less dense. A better analogy, Chipcos are cement, Clays are bricks, Good composites are quality plastic, and bad composites are cheap Chinese plastic...
ash =o)
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Posted Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:49 pm GMT by PanthersHUTCH15
I also say that clay chips are soft. It is hard to explain why, though.
By saying they are soft, I do not mean they are downy soft and throwing them at someone across the table's face will not hurt. Rather, they feel like I can pinch part of the chip and form it or rip it off. That probably doesn't make any sense, so I will stop now before I go on and on and try to let someone else explain it better.
Posted Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:02 pm GMT by ashVID
Hahaha... I was not calling anyone out... just wondering. I have had TR Kings, ASM, Bluechip and Paulsson and never found them soft at all. A lot less dense but not soft... I would also call clay chips "warmer" than say a Chipco which has a "cooler" feel...
ash =o)
Posted Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:08 pm GMT by PanthersHUTCH15
I tried..... I have blue chip samples and asm samples, and a set of TR Kings and the TR Kings are the only ones that really feel soft to me. I have a few paulsons but they are retired casino chips that are dirty, so those feel soft and sticky, but I have a feeling that is from something else.
Posted Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:31 pm GMT by MasterShake
Is a softball soft? :D
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:09 am GMT by tomb1
When I handle the cheap 11.5g chinese dice chips, my major complaint is that they are hard and slick.
So to me, clays are "soft" because that's the opposite of hard.
Not that they are actually marshmallow soft or anything, but they have texture, they "give" a little, they absorb oils, they sorta stick together when stacked, and you could scratch them if you tried real hard. That makes them soft IMO.
Not trying to convince you of anything, just trying to explain how the word "soft" fits for me.
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:27 am GMT by ashVID
I see but what you described is really less dense and more porous....THAT I agree with. I have a friend who bought some ALL IN chips and was bragging how they were soft like clay... they were soft and they are JUNK... after handling real clays, he understands.
ash =o)
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:29 am GMT by tabascojrc
I think the soft term comes from a casino chip that has been in circulation. They have picked up oils and everything else that gets absorbed into the chip that gives a distinctly different feeling than a brand new chip. I think this feells softer.
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:37 am GMT by circlencircle
| ashVID wrote: | I see but what you described is really less dense and more porous....THAT I agree with. I have a friend who bought some ALL IN chips and was bragging how they were soft like clay... they were soft and they are JUNK... after handling real clays, he understands.
ash =o) |
Its partially a issue of density but think of it terms of metal. You can have hard and soft metals. Whether its aluminum vs. iron or a hardened steal vs. unhardened. These are comparable because not all clay chips are composed of the exact same composition of materials or at the very least one manufacturer may use different proportions of the various materials..
ASM chips are very hard for instance, in fact so hard that they are brittle (relatively speaking). Where as bluechips are pretty soft. If you drop a asm chip on a hard surface it will shatter after just a few times where as the bluechips might not ever break. You can see how clean the break is on a asm chip if you look at the picture I posted in the "Paulson sample pics". I don't think softer chips would break that clean. MHO...
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:32 am GMT by galderon
You can also compare them to how a pencil is hard or soft. I have a TR King sample that when dragged across a piece of paper, leaves a mark like a pencil. The easier a chip marks paper (or another chip), the softer it is.
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:37 am GMT by PinataUT
I may be wrong here but how clean something breaks does not always tie in with hardness.
Posted Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:11 am GMT by circlencircle
| PinataUT wrote: | | I may be wrong here but how clean something breaks does not always tie in with hardness. |
True, but in this case I think it does. I dont really know obviously, its just my opinion and the way it made sence to me.
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