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Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:14 pm GMT by ReRaIsE
I know I'm gonna catch shit for this, but I think this was a near genius hand I played this weekend at Foxwoods. Obviously the result was predicated on the river, but it was the play I was proud of. Here it is:
5-5 NL
Player to my left has been making raises with A10, KQ or AJ. He also will reraise with it if the first raise came from later position.
I have A9  from SB
Player 3 raises to $25
Two callers
I raise to $75
SB calls
One other caller
Flop is A  7 2
$300+ in the pot
I bet $100, thinking he might raise and I will put him to the test.
BB raises to $200
Player 3 folds
I reraise to $500 on top, representing the AK
Now this is where the debate comes in. Should he be calling? I say no. I believe he should consider his kicker no good, especially with the raise I put in pre flop. Honestly he shouldn't have even called preflop, and I put him on AJ, AQ at the very best. He should be worried about a SET also, but I'm not because I know he wouldn't raise with 77, and he knows I might (I'm a bit erratic)
But he calls, and I'm sweating a bit, but I have those hearts and a bigger stack at $5500 to his $2200, and I know I will push him in on the river with anything pretty much.
Turn comes J  and I shit my pants, but bet $800 into the $1600 pot, and he calls quickly. At this point I am positive I need a heart.
River 8
And I'm all in. His head hits the table, his stack is short, but he decides to pay me off with the remainder.
Now, I know my play was risky, but I think it was predicated on my analysis of what he held and what he SHOULD assume. I guess he put me on the heart draw, which was a great read, but I think laying down on the flop reraise would have been prudent for him with the size of the raise I put in. Either that or he has got to push in there or DEFINITELY on the turn, which makes me lay it down. BUT he didn't, so I won to his error.
Players at the table were crying, but they kept laying down to me anyway because occasionally I'd show a winning hand. 
I'd love to hear the more experienced players opinions on this. I assume from playing at bigger stakes comes a heightened responsibility to fold when you have a good chance of being behind, as well as a necessary incentive to push bad odds at people with mediocre hands if you think they are unsure, which is what I did.
Thanks.
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Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:29 pm GMT by gol4pro
I put him on AQ from what it sounds. Yeah, he's gotta be a little worried, but you sound like you were playing like a maniac, and the way this hand went down also suggests that.
AQ against a maniac, and an A on the board, I might have a difficult time folding. I'd have to be damn sure I was beat to fold.
Risky doesn't nearly describe your play. You know you're dominated preflop, yet you reraise to 15xBB out of position.
Dream flop. Top pair and nut flush draw happens 1/150 or so. I like post flop play a lot.
I think you're setting yourself up for trouble by reraising not even marginal hands preflop like this, let alone in the SB.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:38 pm GMT by ReRaIsE
I totally, 100% agree with you gol4pro.
I was playing like a maniac, for sure. But there was a reason.
A few hands before that I had caught an overset to break a player of $900, and a few hands before that I caught AA to KK and broke another player, both times showing a winner on a showdown.
Before that I made a power play with J9s for a big reraise, caught a 9 and bet big, guy folded his AK, showing. I didn't show. So players were giving me some room to push them around a little, and I didn't want to dissapoint 
I dunno, I don't like to play Dan Harrington styleee all the time, I end up second guessing myself over decisions and it affects my play.
Aggresive is for me I guess.
Thanks for the reply gol4pro.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:54 pm GMT by ChkDeezNuts
I love your play on all streets.....that guy against you was an idiot ...........If he had made his two pair on turn...I think he probably raises allin....it sounded like AQ was against you........
Your play in this one hand is actually rather remarkable....spectacular read on the guppy....
I congratulate you sir on a well played hand.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:12 pm GMT by mangothebear
I question your preflop reraise with A9 when most likely your hand is dominated. But once you hit that top pair nut flush draw, I think aggressive is definitely the way to go. If he hit top pair and you're betting into him hard, he's gotta be worried about kicker, two pair and sets to which he's drawing pretty thin. You don't worry as much cuz you know you have tons of outs even if he has you beat at that point.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:15 pm GMT by ReRaIsE
Chk, he did make two pair, and only bet small, which was an easy call. That was his mistake.
Thanks for the compliment.
Posted Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 pm GMT by ReRaIsE
True mango, my preflop raise was questionable at best, but it set me up to appear to actually HAVE a kicker, which is what I wanted. Besides, it was 5% of my stack to put a play on someone that garnered me a $4000 pot!
Posted Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:16 am GMT by ChkDeezNuts
| ReRaIsE wrote: | Chk, he did make two pair, and only bet small, which was an easy call. That was his mistake.
Thanks for the compliment. |
What an idiot that guy was.... I would have put my whole stack in there...and told you: "Go ahead...draw to your flush...if you hit it...congratulations....but don't hit the J of hearts Baby!"
Posted Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:07 am GMT by ReRaIsE
He held the J of hearts.
Regardless, he should have folded to my raise on the flop, or just pushed in then. You gotta make decisions and put pressure on the opponent.
Posted Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:41 pm GMT by howzit
A 9 in the SB and you pop it to 75. . .Now you just made a pot w/three players in the back of you, one of who's a lag. Sorry, I don't like this.
Anyway, here we are, great flop. . .figure out a way to semi-bluff all your chips on the flop. Instead you got one third on the flop, one third on the turn, and one third on the river. All while playing behind and w/somebody who has a willingness to call you down. If I had a set of sevens, this is the way I'd like to play this board.
I like the flop raise but it's too small. . .do the math, $300 PF + $400 on the flop + your $500 raise. Now it's $1,200 to call $500.
If by putting somebody to the test, you mean putting a less-than-pot-sized bet in there, than you accomplished what you wanted to do. Basically you made it just "cheap" enough. . .
I'm reraising all-in on the flop if I thought he was on a naked ace and I had him covered. 12 outs is enough for me to gamble with here.
Posted Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:11 pm GMT by ReRaIsE
Very good analysis howzit. I think I didn't get my chips in because I was reacting to his bet first. I think maybe you are right, I should have been all in.
On the other hand, he DEFINETELY would have folded, at least if he had any sense to him at all.
Thanks for your reply.
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