Pokerchips.com order arrived! (Pics) |
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Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:19 am GMT by Dre0000
After almost 3 months, they're here! My girlfriend, bless her generous heart, ordered these for me for my birthday. We designed the colors and logos together. For those of you contemplating an order, here are some comments.
First of all, they are GREAT chips. They feel excellent and have a very authentic casino weight to them. The sound perfect. These, to me, are the highest quality chips I've held.
They do, however, feel like they might be a bit fragile. I would not be comfortable tossing them against a wall or even dropping them onto concrete, but I couldn't break one by hand.
That sort of dusty look people have mentioned is only temporary. In the pictures below you can see three stacks of the blacks; the tall stacks have not been handled and look dusty, but the short stack has been handled and you can see how the colors changed. Just handling them brings the colors out.
They all have the sparkle from the metal shavings. To me this looks damned cool and unique. I like it.
The labeling also looks good and sharp, though there are quite a few (maybe 10%) chips that are printed off center in one way or another. Either the entire center area is off, or the logo is off in the white area. Nothing to cry about.
They included around 5 extras per color. This is good because one of the blacks was defective--looked like someone dropped a small piece of paper onto it before it was stamped.
Anyhow, it's a great set and I recommend these chips to anyone. The printout is the proof Pokerchips.com sent us.
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Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:26 am GMT by nijer
What are the color combinations you used.
Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:37 am GMT by PinataUT
Congrats - nice job!
Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:05 pm GMT by galderon
Nice chips! Looking at yours just makes me want mine! I just placed the order...so three more months for me to wait. 
Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:39 pm GMT by Ford69
love the chips cant wait till mine get here.....do you know the exact date your ordered them... i ordered mine on Nov 21st . So i hope this means mine are coming soon.
Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:00 pm GMT by ChkDeezNuts
I LOVE THE LOGO!!!!!!!!!!!
Liquor in the front and Poker in the rear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is my motto.......
Posted Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:00 pm GMT by ram1962
Those chips are beautiful! I can't wait for my order to arrive. I'm expecting them in June 2005.
Please give us the details on your color choices.
Posted Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:47 am GMT by Wooderson
I love your red one red chip - that is sweet!
Posted Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:01 pm GMT by B_rock
It's refreshing to see another mold other than the horsehead. I really like that A mold.
Great looking chips!
Posted Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:05 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
Sweet......totally sweet...... that red chip looks like candy.... 
Posted Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:36 am GMT by Mechanic
what case is that and where did you get it?....
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:22 pm GMT by Always_Bored
Dre0000, those are amazing chips.
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:05 pm GMT by Vu
Nice looking chips. However, the quality (durability) of these chips suck big time. I broke one of the sample chip with my bare hand. 
None of the other quality chips has this problem. Lesson: get samples before buying any expensive chips.
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:39 pm GMT by Ford69
i think that the quality is bad on the stock chips like the eagle chips. i ordered a set of roman mold chips and they are soppose to be the strongest chips on pc.com or atleast thast what ive heard. THey are soppose to be here this week.
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:07 pm GMT by madmark27
Very nice Dre0000. Thanks for posting the pics. I know its already been said, but ....damn! that's a sweet logo. Good job.
| Vu wrote: | ... However, the quality (durability) of these chips suck big time. I broke one of the sample chip with my bare hand.
None of the other quality chips has this problem. Lesson: get samples before buying any expensive chips. |
As far as breaking chips w/ bare hands...Who the F sits at a table and tries to break the damn chips???? Sit at my table and try to break my chips, and I'll break your freakin' head. Those chips will hold up as good as any. Don't sweat it. 8)
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:47 pm GMT by Vu
Unfortunately, the truth must be revealed.
The durability of these chips SUCKS as compared to other chips. The question of whether or not they will hold in regular play is not the point I tried to make. They MAY hold despite being broken by hand or a drop of 5 ft or more.
Check these sites out. I did not believe them originally until I tried to test it on my own.
http://www.pokerchipreviews.com/compression.html
http://www.homepokertourney.com/chips-hpt.htm
Go with Paulson, TRK, or Chipco. You will not be dissapointed. Moreover, always buy samples first.
Peace out
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:47 am GMT by ram1962
| Vu wrote: | Unfortunately, the truth must be revealed.
The durability of these chips SUCKS as compared to other chips. The question of whether or not they will hold in regular play is not the point I tried to make. They MAY hold despite being broken by hand or a drop of 5 ft or more.
Check these sites out. I did not believe them originally until I tried to test it on my own.
http://www.pokerchipreviews.com/compression.html
http://www.homepokertourney.com/chips-hpt.htm
Go with Paulson, TRK, or Chipco. You will not be dissapointed. Moreover, always buy samples first.
Peace out |
Did you even read those sites you've quoted? The gentleman at Homepokertourney must have been so discouraged about the quality of these chips that he only ordered a 1000 piece set. Here is the exact quote from his site explaining that he couldn't break one with his hands:
| Quote: | | I couldn't break a chip with my fingers but they are fairly easy to break with a pair of pliers. |
Also, the pokerchipreview.com site still rates the overall quality of these chips as a ten. (Even after performing those drop tests)
| Quote: | Note (2/21/05): After having a durability test a few weeks ago, it became very apparent that ALL ASM chips are more fragile than their BlueChip Co and Paulson cousins. Dropping the chips from a height of 4 feet caused the ASM to break in half within 4 to 7 drops. At over 20 drops per chip, the BlueChip and Paulsons were only showing minor dings and scrapes. Keep that in mind if you expect to play over a hard (tile/cement) floor.
WEIGHT: 8.6 - 9.3 grams.
FEEL: 8
QUALITY: 10
LOOKS: 7.5
Manufacturer: ASM
Vendor: Pokerchips.com |
If I were to drop a Sony TV from a height of 4-5ft several times onto a cement/tile floor, I would expect it to break but I wouldn't go around saying Sony's quality sucks.
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:55 am GMT by galderon
Before this thread gets too nasty, just take the poker chip reviews for what they're worth...if you play in a group where the guys are rough on the chips, avoid ASM. If you don't, then they're a fine choice. You decide for yourselves.  Get samples, try to break the chips, and decide if the durability is acceptable for your needs.
It's not rocket science people. 
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:36 am GMT by PaulsonChips
I own multiple sets of almost every chip, (except TRKING, I only have 3 sets) and I would have to say that durability isnt the question should even be a factor.
In a normal game ANY set will do. Any of the chips out there will not give you problems when it comes to breaking. EVEN the ALL-INS!  I dont know why people try to break thier chips on purpose this shouldnt be a worry when it comes to buying chips!
Paulson IMO is the softest chip and kicks and rounds off the fastest. It doesnt "BREAK" as easy as say ASM but if you shuffle both chips 1000 times, you will see that the Paulson have rounded off while the ASM holds its figure a little better.
Blue Chip/TRKING are the strongest chips IMO.
But again, this shouldnt be a worry.
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:27 pm GMT by ClonexxSA
I would have to say that questioning the durability of the ASM chips just because they may break in half after dropping them on the concrete 7 times is pretty out of place.
Durability is not an issue, even as someone said with the ALL IN chips, in any normal play scenario (Though the All In chips will have their faces rub off).
I have had 2 ASM samples here for well over 6 months, they get shuffled every day, have been dropped more times then I can count onto my hardwood floor from about 4 feet up, and are still in pristine condition with the exception of the grime that has built up on the blue one from handling it for all this time.
I agree with the assessment that ANY chip out there, even the 11.5g plastic Dice chips, can work for any normal game.
Pauson, TRKing, ASM, Chipco ALL make incredible chips. You shouldn't turn someone off of ASM and pokerchips.com because you have some sort of personal bias against them because they break after being dropped 7 times from 5 feet onto solid concrete.
For .95 cents a chip and a flat $50 color art charge you can get fully customized spotted chips with your choice of color and the entire inlay designed for you. Noone else touches that price wise for being able to pick colors, edge spots and art AND only having to order 300 chips to get that price. On top of that, you can order replacements in any amount at a flat .95 cents a chip after your initial order....FOREVER.
I love Paulsons, I love TRKings, hell I love ALL chips to be honest...I think they are all fun to use, just some more then others. I personally went with pokerchips.com after doing well over 6 months of testing and research myself into what chips I wanted most. Noone could touch what pokerchips.com offers, and their chips are top notch.
In closing of this long winded blow hard post Don't let anyone steer you away from choosing what YOU want to use as your pokerchip manufacturer. ALL 5 of the big boys (Paulson, TRKing, ASM, Chipco and Bud Jones) make INCREDIBLE products. You just have to decide what level of customization you want, how many you want, if you want to get in a group buy or have your very own unique set..etc. Once you hammer that out you can figure out just where you want to place your order.
For me it happened to be pokerchips.com, for you it may be paulson or chipco...no choice is wrong and in the end you end up with awesome chips no matter which one you choose.
And for the record, I can not break either of the ASM samples by hand, they will not even bend a little bit.
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:39 pm GMT by circlencircle
My first thought on this is, it’s ridiculous and ignorant to say ASM chips suck. They are one of the highest quality chips available. Under the normal conditions that they were designed to be used, these chips will last a life time and show less wear than other quality chips. This is directly because of the chips hardness IMO. Just like hardened metal will stay sharp longer in the case of a knife, it also means it is more brittle and can easily be broken or shattered if -miss used-. ASM isn’t one of the oldest chip manufactures in the US for nothing.
...over and out.
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:43 pm GMT by galderon
| ClonexxSA wrote: | | I would have to say that questioning the durability of the ASM chips just because they may break in half after dropping them on the concrete 7 times is pretty out of place. |
My point is just because you disagree with someone's opinion doesn't invalidate it. All reviews on the ASM chips state that the durability is slightly inferior to others, and they explain how they can be broken by a drop onto a concrete floor or with a pair of pliers. Obviously, this isn't durable enough for some people. I personally went with ASM...but a lesser durability (such as the All-In chips) is not adequate for me.
So I agree...ASM doesn't suck, but on the other hand, its lack of durability isn't totally trivial either. It's great that these companies will provide samples and we have a couple of nice poker chip review sites to make informed decisions.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:10 am GMT by Dre0000
Thanks for all the compliments, but upon hearing that my chips might break if I go all in on a concrete surface from a height of 5 ft I have decided to return them.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:14 am GMT by tomb1
Dre, your chips are awesome. Use them for a lifetime and pass them on to your grandchildren, and may you always have good luck!
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:17 am GMT by ClonexxSA
| Dre0000 wrote: | | Thanks for all the compliments, but upon hearing that my chips might break if I go all in on a concrete surface from a height of 5 ft I have decided to return them. |
I sincerely hope you are joking.
I think you are, but I could be wrong =P
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:48 pm GMT by madmark27
| ram1962 wrote: | | If I were to drop a Sony TV from a height of 4-5ft several times onto a cement/tile floor, I would expect it to break but I wouldn't go around saying Sony's quality sucks. |
Exactly!
By the way, I got a game this comming up this weekend....anybody got a pair of pliers?? 
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:13 pm GMT by Always_Bored
| ram1962 wrote: |
If I were to drop a Sony TV from a height of 4-5ft several times onto a cement/tile floor, I would expect it to break but I wouldn't go around saying Sony's quality sucks. |
when was the last time you and your friends sat around a table throwing sony TV's into the pot?
Chips fall on the ground. If they are falling of a table and breaking that is not good. Nobody will respect your chips like you do. And they will get thrown around (probably not to purposely destroy the chips). They will fall off the table every once in a while. If i had a choice between a chip that will withstand a 5 foot drop and a chip that wont I will take the one that will.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:25 pm GMT by galderon
| Always_Bored wrote: | | If i had a choice between a chip that will withstand a 5 foot drop and a chip that wont I will take the one that will. |
Well, yeah, with all other factors being equal, but that's not very interesting, is it? What if the more durable chip wasn't as pretty? What if the more durable chip was twice as expensive? Now the decision is interesting. Durability is a factor, but it's not the only factor. Not everyone has the same needs. Get samples! Make an informed decision.
EDIT: D'oh! Fixed attribution.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:29 pm GMT by Always_Bored
| galderon wrote: | | ram1962 wrote: | | If i had a choice between a chip that will withstand a 5 foot drop and a chip that wont I will take the one that will. |
Well, yeah, with all other factors being equal, but that's not very interesting, is it? What if the more durable chip wasn't as pretty? What if the more durable chip was twice as expensive? Now the decision is interesting. Durability is a factor, but it's not the only factor. Not everyone has the same needs. Get samples! Make an informed decision. |
you put the wrong name in the quote.
But sorry i should have said two similar chips in price and appearance. I would take the more durable one. And you can find chips similar and in the same price range and appearance that are more durable. If I already ordered the chips I would keep them because im sure they are durable enough. However if i was deciding on which ones I was ordering I would not go with the less durable ones.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:06 pm GMT by pocket snowmen
if this guy is serious about returning his chips, which i doubt, the world is coming to an end....
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:08 pm GMT by R Deckard
| pocket snowmen wrote: | | if this guy is serious about returning his chips, which i doubt, the world is coming to an end.... |
I think he's just been taking some posting tips from yeltzen. . .
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:15 pm GMT by ClonexxSA
| Always_Bored wrote: | | ram1962 wrote: |
If I were to drop a Sony TV from a height of 4-5ft several times onto a cement/tile floor, I would expect it to break but I wouldn't go around saying Sony's quality sucks. |
when was the last time you and your friends sat around a table throwing sony TV's into the pot?
Chips fall on the ground. If they are falling of a table and breaking that is not good. Nobody will respect your chips like you do. And they will get thrown around (probably not to purposely destroy the chips). They will fall off the table every once in a while. If i had a choice between a chip that will withstand a 5 foot drop and a chip that wont I will take the one that will. |
You are talking like they break after one drop though. The review specifically states that it broke after 4-7 continuous drops onto solid concrete. They also probably dropped the chip the same way each time.
Yes, when you play some chips may fall off the table, but the chances that the same chips, fall the same way, 4 times in a row and break are practically nil.
Am I saying they wont break? Not at all. What I am saying is that it is being vastly blown out of proportion.
As I said, I have samples here from ASM and they have been put through hell for the past 6 months (certainly much worse then any game could put them through) and they have held up fine.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:29 pm GMT by circlencircle
Just thought someone might be interested to see one that actually broke during a drop test. This particular one broke after 5 drops. I will say though, that I personally consider ASM to be one of the top 3 clay chips on the market.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:45 pm GMT by Dre0000
Odds a chip will break during a night of poker ~ 1/10,000
Poker nights per year ~ 52
Therefore,
Expected chips broken per year = 13/2500
Expected durability cost per year = $0.00494 or roughly $0.00
These chips rule, Q.E.D.
(Thanks again for the compliments. I will post the color combinations if/when I can find them; the girl at pokerchips.com changed them from my suggestions to match the mockup I provided.)
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:52 pm GMT by ClonexxSA
Good to hear it man.
Im antsy to get my chips from em, but I got a long wait ahead of me. I havent even gotten the first art proof yet =)
Waiting sucks, but itll be worth it.
Posted Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:33 pm GMT by Ford69
i cant wait for mine either they should be here this week sometimes. I might post some pics if i can get ahold of a camera but if not then o well. I CANT WAIT.
Posted Thu May 05, 2005 10:13 am GMT by Dre0000
Update on the reliability of Pokerchips.com chips.
We had a 10 hour poker game on Sunday. Hour 7 was the "drunk and energetic" hour and a small poker chip war broke out. I'd say 5 or so chips got thrown very hard against players, other chip stacks, and some wood furniture before I was able to stop the madness.
None of the chips showed any damage at all. Everything was fine after I threatened to confiscate all the chips without refund from the next person to throw a chip.
Again, these chips rule.
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