Posted Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:57 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
Yesterday, after getting sickened while playing $1/$2 NL when some idiot called my $10 preflop raise with TJ and hit a flop of TJx against my QQ for like the millionth time i decided to take a step up and try some $2/$4 NL for the first time 
I was a little wary, not so as it would affect my play, i thought "ok just play same way you'll be fine" but it was my first time, so i thought, just be careful a little.
Well inside the first 20 minutes i got involved in a pot from the bb where i turned the nut flush and had 2 guys betting into me.
I raised double, they both called, the river brought a blank.
1st guy bet out all in for him, about half the pot, 2nd guy called and after studying the board for almost all my time i decided that there was no possibility of a boat or quads or str/flush i moved all in, the pot was about $200 and my all in made it another $250 for the guy to call.
After thinking for a bit he said, "ugh, i got to call it" and showed his Ten high flush (?  ) I virtually tripled up! "2/4 NL is great!"
I left after about 1 more round, just cos it was late and stuff.
Today i played again for about 1 hour and while i didn't really hit any big hands or play many posts, i soon found myself down about $200 again inside the hour!
Obvously i'm still ahead at this level, albeit based on 1 massive pot, and i haven't really played at this level for more than 2 hours really.
But i am still very wary!
The swings here are HUGE!
My bankroll covers it okay (for now) so i'll give it a longer session tomorrow (going out this evening) and see how it goes.
I don't really know where this post is going?
Basically, i'm just wondering about your thoughts and opinions on $2/$4 NL as opposed to $1/$2 NL
Should i stick to 1/2 where even tho i have to suffer the sickening suckout, i can turn a pretty decent profit, or should i take my shot at the higher level and suffer the swings? I know only i can answer that  but opinions please.
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Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:52 am GMT by galahad_187
you can't let any one session dictate at what limit you play. im glad you had a nice run and all, but it takes alot of hours to really prove anything with consistancy. You say your bankroll can suffer swings. So you have a 6000 bankroll? imo you need atleast 15x the max buy in. Not to insult your inteligence if you already agree and have that much, just too many people move up too soon that i've heard of, and while they are good enough for the level, they dont have the bankroll to accomidate the swings. as far as are you ready - well, if you've been a long standing consistant winner at 1/2. i dont see why you can't move up =)
gl
galahad
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:09 am GMT by JohnnyCache
He's got some of that 'innernet money'
With his bankroll, Fat Tony's personality, and YT's suave good looks, we could build some kind of 'Pokerstien.'
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:19 pm GMT by racquet000
where are you playing. the 1/2nl on party is now 200nl and that game its uhh differnt. lets just say if you hit a se push and your bound to get a caller. But i know what you mean with the high pairs i had aces kings and queens. And everytime the other night i dropped them before the turn. And sadly but not so sadly it was the right move
Posted Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:30 pm GMT by theyweresooted
In my experience, the step between 1/2 and 2/4 NL on party is a pretty big one. 1/2 can be beaten just by playing straightforward TAG with very little deception. 2/4 is a whole other animal. A straight TAG style will get pushed off a lot of pots when holding marginally good hands like TPTK. Then when you get the nuts you won't get action. Much more skill and reads involved. Mindless multitabling won't work.
That's not to say you shouldn't move up, but you definitely shouldn't base your decision on the result of one hand.
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:09 pm GMT by howzit
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:09 pm GMT by howzit
| wEbMaStEr wrote: | | Yesterday, after getting sickened while playing $1/$2 NL when some idiot called my $10 preflop raise with TJ and hit a flop of TJx against my QQ for like the millionth time |
hi, i play 1-2nL up to 5-10NL. I make this preflop call routinely.
I move up in games when I have a better comprehension of NL strategies and feel as though I'm playing well and runing well. I have NEVER stepped up in limits because I feel like the players in my games are donks. Why would I leave a game filled w/ "idiots" who overplay their hands or don't understand basic equity?
If you're upset about somebody calling a standard opener w/a suited connector and you losing a chunk of your stack after they outflop you, my advice is to learn how to play one-pair hands better. i.e. work on reading flop texture, playing position and maitaining pot control. I don't know how well you apply these tools because I've never seen a hand that you've posted, but working on these moves at a lower level will be cheaper and help your game when you do get outflopped.
Internalize these concepts and practice them because there will be a higher premium on this skill set in the bigger games where the aggression factor is much higher.
Trust me, weird hands show up in the high games not just in the lower levels.
Posted Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:56 am GMT by Loonbat
| howzit wrote: |
i.e. work on reading flop texture ... |
lmao - sorry, but I'm picturing pristine pastures and lots of cows ...
Posted Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:19 pm GMT by snoogins47
| howzit wrote: | | Trust me, weird hands show up in the high games not just in the lower levels. |
You're just going to lose a lot more to them in higher games.
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