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Posted Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:16 pm GMT by Hold'em 07
I play in a very loose game, hardly any raises pre-flop, suck-outs all over the place. $10 buy-in with an average of 7-9 people. I play very-tight early on(mainly because the blinds are very small compared to the starting stack and because of everyones reckless play). I just wanted to hear some input on this type of game, strategies, should I worry about tells, just overall what should I do because I can't seem to figure out what to do.
Situation:Last game I'm second in chips, chip-leader has knocked out 3 people in a very short amount of time. After some of these guys get knocked out they tell everyone that they were getting pissed at the chip leader and just wanted to see what he had so they went all-in. I mean it boggles my mind that these guys complain about losing their money after the game but during the game call someone through anger of them beating them. WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH these (newbs) very intelligent human beings?
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Posted Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:30 am GMT by cssamerican
I play with a couple of people like this every now and then. Don’t slow play anything at a table like this, and play extremely tight and very aggressive pre flop. You don’t want six people looking at the flop when you decide to play your cards because it becomes impossible to make wise decisions on betting unless you got the nuts. Even bad players won’t hang around with low cards versus large pre flop bets, in fact, most think your nuts for betting that big before the flop.
Most bad players watched Rounders one to many times, and they think the game revolves around bluffing with bad hands. So, they will call all in bets at times with a low pair even when the flop has two or three over cards. Some have even called me with just an ace high. No matter how many times they do this I always ask them, “Have you ever seen be bluff with trash?” However, for some reason they still think I do, and that their mistake was misreading me, not calling with a weak hand. It is almost to the level of being Twilight Light Zone weird. At a table like this your best weapon is patience, over time weak players will beat themselves due to misconceptions about the game and overall weak play.
Posted Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:09 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I started playing consistently in this type of game, and image means a lot. Develop a reputation as a tight but very aggressive player. Not only will it mean more pots with fewer people for you, but it will make the occasional bluff that much easier. Don't slowplay much--come out aggressively with high pocket pairs, because it is easy to get cracked in No Limit games where players will draw to just about anything. Hitting top pair or 2 pair often warrents betting the pot, whereas you can slowplay trips a bit more. Bet on the Button when you have a draw, because it may buy you a free card.
Posted Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:26 pm GMT by kellerumd
Yeah, I like the tight aggressive style against random loose players. I usually play with a kid that will raise everytime he sees a face card, even if it is k2 or better yet, j2. Since he raises almost every preflop, i fold everything execpt premium hands. Depends on my position at the table, but i usually check to his raise and then give a huge reraise, possibily an all-in reraise, depending on the hand. This is nice because 9 out of 10 times it results in me taking a huge pot off him and possibily busting him out so we could have a more normal paced game.
Posted Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:28 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Also remember to adjust your game to the blinds, which is something most players don't do, or they have the wrong mentality about it. When the blinds are low, you want to play TIGHTER since you can afford to muck most hands, but as the blinds increase, loosen up a bit and go on the aggressive to start stealing those meaty blinds.
Posted Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:23 pm GMT by Geno
Regularly playing with loose players is a godsend - in the long run you will win even if you lose on a given night.
Posted Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:02 pm GMT by sergoyaa
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | Also remember to adjust your game to the blinds, which is something most players don't do, or they have the wrong mentality about it. When the blinds are low, you want to play TIGHTER since you can afford to muck most hands, but as the blinds increase, loosen up a bit and go on the aggressive to start stealing those meaty blinds. |
Not to steal this post, but I've played in a few mini tourneys lately (typically they're all that's available before a live table opens up in the afternoon round here).
Most of these are tournements are filled with horribly loose passive poor players that will call with anything. So I got to thinking, when the blinds are very small, and there is very little pre-flop raising, does it make sense to try and see nearly every flop?
Even with garbage, if you hit s huge flop (say you flop a straight or trips), with these weak players, you can bet and bet and bet, and they will call and call and call. Therefore, by playing every hand and mucking when you dont hit the flop well, you might risk 1/10th of your chips in ten hands (blinds), but if you hit just one flop, you can potentially take a huge pot off many players.
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