A Hand I Protest is Not a Bad Beat |
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Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:37 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day on a hand he believed was a "bad beat" at our local cardroom on the $4/$8 limit table. he is dealt 77, he calls 1 raise pre-flop. Total of four players.
Flop:
7  9 10
First player comes out betting, second player raises, third player re-raises. My friend is now looking at 3 bets to a low set with a straight and flush possible. At this point I say lay it down, assuming players are typical for a loose 4/8 game. But, he ends up calling 3 bets, after which player 1 re-raises to cap. Both other players call, and now so does my friend.
Turn:
2
Again Player 1 bets, but this time player 2 folds. Player 3 comes in for a raise. My friend calls. Player 1 re-raises. Player 3 folds for some reason. My friend again calls, also for no apparently good reason, as he now is looking at 4 cards to a flush.
River:
7 
My friend now has quads. Player 1 bets, my friend re-raises. Re-raise back and forth for about $60, after which my friend calls. Player 1 flips over:
6 8
Straight flush beats quad 7's. My friend protests this was a bad beat, but I disagree, seeing as how he was drawing dead the whole way, and didn't catch his out until the river. Opinions?
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Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:22 am GMT by Jauron
It's a bad beat regardless.
He shouldn't have caught that last 7, or even have been in the hand past the flop with all that betting, but once he did catch that last 7 it became a bad beat.
It would have quialified in every casino I know of for the bad beat jackpot.
Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:06 am GMT by howzit
Flop: Calling three bets cold w/bottom set and a straight flush on the board. . . .ugh. . . .not good. But this is 4/8 on a weekend. Your friend might be drinking so let's gamble. . . .
Turn: 2 This doesn't change things. He knows he's already behind to the flush so all he's doing is adding up his outs to win the pot. (10 outs ideally. In this case, zero)
This pot is now buldging @ 20 BBs. Who the hell would fold?
Your friend's unlucky the middle player was an idiot and put in an extra bet for everybody else. I'd be more pissed at him.
River: tough luck. . .your friend is now officially a fishy fish and villain is going to make a nice trophy out of him. He could've stopped a little earlier w/the reraises. 10 out of 10 players w/ace high-flushes don't keep reraising when the board pairs.
Too bad you don't play in Minnesota. Nice hand.
Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:37 pm GMT by snoogins47
Well, there's no definition of "bad beat" that is universally accepted, and I've heard "bad beats" of both forms: silly outdraws, and crushing second bests.
I think either works, especially since that hand would often qualify for a "bad beat" jackpot.
Either way, losing with quads sucks.
Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:40 pm GMT by MasterShake
| snoogins47 wrote: | Well, there's no definition of "bad beat" that is universally accepted, and I've heard "bad beats" of both forms: silly outdraws, and crushing second bests.
I think either works, especially since that hand would often qualify for a "bad beat" jackpot.
Either way, losing with quads sucks. |
Snoog, your pretty girl is having a seizure.
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