The ole "double check the hole cards" trick |
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Posted Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:34 pm GMT by sergoyaa
So I started using an interesting trick to maximize profit when playing Ax suited and I hit my flush on the flop. Typically this is hard to do since you know, even if someone else has the king high flush, he/she will be wary of the ace, so here's a way to reassure them that you DONT have it.
In NL games especially, this trick is very profitable. The setup:
You must be playing against intermediate or advanced players who are aware of standard tells.
You hold Ax suited, regardless of position or number of opponents (for simplicity sake), you flop the flush.
On the flop, double check your hole cards and then bet out, or raise a previous bet, depending on where the action is. (fairly substantial raise, no value betting)
On the turn, you need to hope that a blank hits that is not of your suit.
Most of the time this will happen. Here's where you slow down - check or just call.
For this play to work to perfection, the river must also bring a non-suited card. When this happens, you check raise or re-raise all-in.
BTW, you don't need the nut flush for this to work, but it helps (for more reasons than the obvious). If you flop the Jack high flush for example, you may be trying to out play a bigger flush, but more likely, another player could have the Ace and therefore he may put a play on you on the river, knowing that you CANNOT have the nut fluh (he has the ace).
It's rare that this opportunity comes up, but when it does, I've been very successful in getting at least one opponent all-in on the river with me by playing this way. I've actually had players look me in the eyes before calling on the river, and tell me "I know you missed your flush... I call".
Obviously against real advanced players and unread inexperienced beginners, this won't work, but a majority of the players out there fall right in the middle, and will pick up on your double checking of your hole cards, as well as the obvious way you played the hand.
Double checking your hole cards on the flop is a standard tell that you do NOT have the flush (in case you weren't aware). Most players will double check their hole cards with a suited flop in order to see which of their 2 cards (if any) match the suit. Your opponents will typically put you on the Ace or King high draw when you over bet on the flop and check on the turn. Therefore, even if your opponent is only playing top pair, he/she may feel that your large bet on the river (when a blank hit) is simply a bluff, and will call you.
Anyone see in logical problems with this play? It's worked well for me.
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Posted Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:09 am GMT by Muck
| sergoyaa wrote: |
Anyone see in logical problems with this play? It's worked well for me.
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Basically you’re slow playing the nut flush.
The only risk is you don’t get paid off. (If we ignore the full house draw risk)
If you’re finding that play more profitable than overcalls stick with it.
Posted Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:40 am GMT by NickFlynn
Here's an online version.
I've got A  K  in the cutoff. One limper calls my raise, as well as the button.
Flop comes with 3 rag hearts.
Early player checks, I check, the button raises about 1/3 of the pot. Folded to me, I call.
Turn is another heart. I check, the button makes a pot sized bet.
I hit the "Time" button and let it run down almost to zero before I call.
The river is a blank. I check, he goes all-in with his K high flush.
Afterwards, he actually asked, "What were you thinking about on the turn?"
- Nick
Posted Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:06 am GMT by Muck
| NickFlynn wrote: |
Afterwards, he actually asked, "What were you thinking about on the turn?"
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"Vegas and the f*cking Taj" :D
Posted Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:48 am GMT by salt_bagel
I've found that if you can pay attention well enough, having the phone ring or something happen on tv can totally randomize your thinking time during online poker. It's amazing how easy it is to screw people up, and surprising that so few people have caught on to such a simple thing.
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