Posted Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:54 pm GMT by JHile31
Has anyone done a Blue Chip group buy recently? either customs or stock? I was just wondering if anyone knew what the prices would be for a group buy. I really like the look of Blue Chip chips, especially the edge spots. I know a lot of people say the feel isn't too good, but if the price was right, I would be into getting a set just based on the looks. Anyone have any info about good prices on Blue Chip chips?
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Posted Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:06 pm GMT by circlencircle
| JHile31 wrote: | | Has anyone done a Blue Chip group buy recently? either customs or stock? I was just wondering if anyone knew what the prices would be for a group buy. I really like the look of Blue Chip chips, especially the edge spots. I know a lot of people say the feel isn't too good, but if the price was right, I would be into getting a set just based on the looks. Anyone have any info about good prices on Blue Chip chips? |
From what I understand they don’t have a website and can only be contacted by phone. If I remember correctly a few posted that there customer service is pretty bad. On the other hand I have considered trying to get a group buy together for customs recently as well. Anyone have their contact information? I would be willing to start the leg work and possibly organize the whole deal if enough people are interested.
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:34 pm GMT by JHile31
im also willing to do some work on this if anyone is interested besides circlencircle and i
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:08 pm GMT by jtnt1096
Here is the info for Blue Chip:
BLUE CHIP COMPANY LLC
(702) 399-0382
201 Commerce Park CT
North Las Vegas, NV 89032
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:45 am GMT by yeltzen
I wanna do an NJ clay group buy... they're Blue Chip. Ha.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:44 am GMT by pokerchipreviews
NJ has the best molds AND quality control out there for Blue Chip manufactured chips. If you want Blue Chip....going NJ is not a bad thing.
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:30 am GMT by JHile31
i wouldnt mind NJ clays either...the only problem in my opinion is that the price is probably going to be significantly higher
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:51 am GMT by yeltzen
| JHile31 wrote: | | i wouldnt mind NJ clays either...the only problem in my opinion is that the price is probably going to be significantly higher |
It definitely will be. The really need to have a deal like they're having with the Desert Sands. I'd be all over that.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:20 am GMT by Juliea344
I've been going back and forth with the idea of placing a very large order with blue chip (some for myself and some retail) but this little "memoir" has helped me make up my mind http://www.ucrlowlander.com/Chips.htm
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:18 am GMT by The Nutz
Does anyone have an email for the Blue Chip company?
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:53 am GMT by JHile31
| Juliea344 wrote: | | I've been going back and forth with the idea of placing a very large order with blue chip (some for myself and some retail) but this little "memoir" has helped me make up my mind http://www.ucrlowlander.com/Chips.htm |
that is the first horror story i have read about blue chip...has anyone else had a problem like this. or for that matter who has had a good experience with blue chip??
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:41 pm GMT by dawgma
check this out if you want in on a custom chip group buy...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1906073&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=22#Post1934949
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:33 pm GMT by Wooderson
If that log is correct about Blue Chip, I ought to buy the company. Talk about terrible inefficientcy and ineptness.
And I'm with Dawgma - that group buy is good-strong.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:08 pm GMT by JHile31
this group buy has nothing to do with that group buy. i knew about tens group buy when i started this thread...the point of this is for something good looking but cheaper than paulson. the reason i chose to look into blue chip is because its cheap for customs, plus you get to choose your own colors. i will probably get into the pharoh buy as well...i would just like to look at some other chip options...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:12 pm GMT by circlencircle
| Wooderson wrote: | If that log is correct about Blue Chip, I ought to buy the company. Talk about terrible inefficientcy and ineptness.
And I'm with Dawgma - that group buy is good-strong. |
I have some of the new Paulson’s and I will be one of the first to attest to their exceptional quality. I have no doubt that Ten's are going to be very, very nice and I may very will buy some myself but the deal here is a few of us also consider Bluechip to be very desirable chips because they have there own unique qualities and character, so this thread (correct me if I'm wrong JHile31, was started for a specific desire to own some nice Bluechips for a good price.
I called Bluechip today and will be making another call this afternoon to get better specifics on pricing and mold options. Stand by for those who are interested.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:13 pm GMT by dawgma
| Quote: | | this group buy has nothing to do with that group buy. i knew about tens group buy when i started this thread |
Sorry --- the fact that you knew about Ten's Pharaoh's wasn't very obvious in your original post. I was just passing along info that I thought might be useful to you.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:13 pm GMT by circlencircle
| JHile31 wrote: | | this group buy has nothing to do with that group buy. i knew about tens group buy when i started this thread...the point of this is for something good looking but cheaper than paulson. the reason i chose to look into blue chip is because its cheap for customs, plus you get to choose your own colors. i will probably get into the pharoh buy as well...i would just like to look at some other chip options... |
 I think we were both posting responces at the exact same time...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:12 pm GMT by stevo
I really don't understand why everyone is so down on the blue chippers. I have some samples of some of the "Vegas Pro's" which are very simular to the Bonds. I think they are great. Yes, they are a tad light, but I really like the fact that you can get single edge spots, doubles, triples, etc. If we could get a set for say 50 cents a chip, I would have to seriously consider getting 1000 if the inlay was to my liking.
That said, has anyone ever gotten just some blank blue chips like you used to be able to get at casino.com and put some stickers on em? I would be up for a group buy of blanks as well...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:18 pm GMT by TenPercenter
I just dont see buying real clay chips and putting stickers on them. It kinda defeats the purpose in my mind. If you wanbt that route, then RPT Nexgens with stickers look great.
IMHO,
Ten
| stevo wrote: | | That said, has anyone ever gotten just some blank blue chips like you used to be able to get at casino.com and put some stickers on em? I would be up for a group buy of blanks as well... |
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:40 pm GMT by Wooderson
Don't get me wrong here, I like Blue Chips from the samples I have. I just am flabbergasted by the log that Juliea344 posted. It's the 2/20 rule. You do something right for me, I'll tell two friends. You do something wrong, I'll tell 20. Well, to counteract that one very negative experience via hear-say I ned hear-say about 3 - 4 exceptional ones. I would love to hear about them.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:48 pm GMT by yeltzen
OMGZ!!!!!!!! Did u hear teh US put a man on teh moon!?!?!?!?!
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:54 pm GMT by dawgma
| Quote: | | OMGZ!!!!!!!! Did u hear teh US put a man on teh moon!?!?!?!?! |
LOL. 
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:55 pm GMT by JHile31
| circlencircle wrote: | | Wooderson wrote: | If that log is correct about Blue Chip, I ought to buy the company. Talk about terrible inefficientcy and ineptness.
And I'm with Dawgma - that group buy is good-strong. |
I have some of the new Paulson’s and I will be one of the first to attest to their exceptional quality. I have no doubt that Ten's are going to be very, very nice and I may very will buy some myself but the deal here is a few of us also consider Bluechip to be very desirable chips because they have there own unique qualities and character, so this thread (correct me if I'm wrong JHile31, was started for a specific desire to own some nice Bluechips for a good price.
I called Bluechip today and will be making another call this afternoon to get better specifics on pricing and mold options. Stand by for those who are interested. |
you are correct^^^
and i also agree with ten...i dont see the point of putting stickers on clay chips...kinda tacky IMO
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:09 pm GMT by circlencircle
| JHile31 wrote: |
and i also agree with ten...i dont see the point of putting stickers on clay chips...kinda tacky IMO |
I would personally never consider putting a sticker on a clay chip and my mission here is to create something unique with a subtle design yet stunning in its own way... Both of the NJ clays are excellent examples of this, so far as the colors and mold, however the inlays have much to be desired IMHO. So again, here in a couple of hours I will be talking with someone from Bluechip to discuss things and will let you all know...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:32 pm GMT by yeltzen
| circlencircle wrote: | | The inlays have much to be desired IMHO. So again, here in a couple of hours I will be talking with someone from Bluechip to discuss things and will let you all know... |
There are no clay chips with exciting inlays. That's what ceramics are for.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:38 pm GMT by circlencircle
| yeltzen wrote: | | circlencircle wrote: | | The inlays have much to be desired IMHO. So again, here in a couple of hours I will be talking with someone from Bluechip to discuss things and will let you all know... |
There are no clay chips with exciting inlays. That's what ceramics are for. |
Well that’s certainly one opinion...Not mine, but it’s no surprise that we are on opposing sides once again.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:46 pm GMT by yeltzen
Because that statement made no sense. When was the last time you saw a classy clay chip inlay that was exciting?
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:58 pm GMT by circlencircle
Ok all; I just spoke with Mike Endy for a while. The facts are as follows...
- Chips will not be more than 9gr.
(this is to maintain security for their casino customers who obviously make up the most significant percentage their revenue)
Our target quantity should be 51,000, this gets a price of $.65 each. I will entertain a smaller quantity if there is not enough support for 51,000 but the price will go up to 75cents.
As for the design of the chip, there are some options and at this point I am inclined to set some ground rules. Because of the time, effort and potential financial investment, beyond the cost of any chips I would purchase for myself, I am going to require full control over the design of these chips. What this means simply is, I have the "final say so" but I will absolutely make every attempt to create a chip that will satisfy the group and consider ever ones opinion who is involved before deciding on the design. That being said...
There is a potential here to create a custom mold but this will require a substantial investment. Obviously it would be difficult to justify the cost of this being spread across a group because ownership would lie in my hands alone. At this point it is my desire to make a custom mold but I can not -guarantee- anything at this time due to the cost.
The alternative to a custom mold will be the "sea shell" mold (actually 6 flames - as pokerchipreviews.com made light of some time ago).
Inlay options are as follows
7/8" inlay (example of this would be Nevada Jacks clay)
Pros for this are an increase in the outer rim of the chip which equates to a heaver chip and more clay exposed affecting the over all feel.
1" inlay (example of this would be the BC James Bond)
Pros for this are an increase in area for artwork.
They also offer an inlay that covers the entire chip such as the BC "Fan Of Cards" chip but I am not interested in this at all.
I prefer the 7/8 inlay because it has more of an old casino look and particularly because of the increase in weight it offers.
Mike is sending me samples which should pretty much cover all available color options. I will post photos of them as soon as I receive them.
As for edge spots, I intend on having a combination of double and triple edge spots and possibly one with no spots depending on what is decided for denominations (i.e. a 25c chip).
Additional info; I am very likely deploying to Iraq for a few months in July, so this is going to be my end all be all deadline for the chips to be completed. But I will push as hard as possible to get these chips in hand as soon as possible. Ideally not more than two months. Even this seems like a long time but I want to be realistic given some of the things we have heard about BC, as well as the fact that if I create a custom mold it will increase the wait time some what.
These are just my initial thoughts and I am open to all of your opinions and ideas. Stay tuned for updates...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:25 pm GMT by JHile31
i would agree as far as the inlay goes...i like the 1" look, but the extra weight of the 7/8 is much more appealing to me. i also like the idea of different edge spots (2 and 3, or even 1) which is the main thing that i like about blue chip! As far as denoms go, which you didn't really mention yet...i would like to see 1, 5, 25, 100, 500, 1000...i am a big fan of the $1000 chips, mainly because of the orange/yellow color...let me know what you find out...i will be out of town for about a week and im not sure when ill be able to check back on this stuff but thanks for getting this thing rolling...
as far as the 51k in chips, im gonna guess thats gonna be a stretch based on peoples negative feeling toward blue chip around here...hopefully these chips will change some peoples view...
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:00 pm GMT by PocketRocket
I put some labels on some solid color Blue Chips and they look pretty decent. Just wish they weren't such a flaky company to deal with, otherwise I'd be inclined to check on the pricing of some more blanks. BTW their quality control is a bit lacking as well, some of the chips in my batch even what appeared to be air bubbles.
| TenPercenter wrote: | I just dont see buying real clay chips and putting stickers on them. It kinda defeats the purpose in my mind. If you wanbt that route, then RPT Nexgens with stickers look great.
IMHO,
Ten
|
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:45 pm GMT by ledavatar
That BC order story was the end-all of all order nightmares. Sounds worse than dealing with thechipstore.com from what I've read on a thread. It sounds as if Dave Endy was the lone man on the entire job order. I hope Mike Endy is better than his retarded brother.
I have some blue chips from the Sahara casino in LV - They look and feel just like Paulsons, but I've never seen any of those lightweight 9gr chip they make for the home market. Any chance I can get some samples from them to see?
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:49 pm GMT by circlencircle
| ledavatar wrote: | That BC order story was the end-all of all order nightmares. Sounds worse than dealing with thechipstore.com from what I've read on a thread. It sounds as if Dave Endy was the lone man on the entire job order. I hope Mike Endy is better than his retarded brother.
I have some blue chips from the Sahara casino in LV - They look and feel just like Paulsons, but I've never seen any of those lightweight 9gr chip they make for the home market. Any chance I can get some samples from them to see? |
You might try to call BC directly to ask but if you really want to get a feel for them I would recommend buying some samples from NJ.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:42 pm GMT by Juliea344
I'd actually like to hear the end of that story. Perhaps I'll email those guys and find out if they ever did get their chips.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:51 pm GMT by TenPercenter
| Juliea344 wrote: | | I'd actually like to hear the end of that story. Perhaps I'll email those guys and find out if they ever did get their chips. |
Yes, he finally got his chips.
Ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:51 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
I really don't see how Blue Chip can continue to only offer a lighter chip to the consumer market. With the Paulson back in town (like the design or not) you have a very well make clay chip at proper casino weighting.
The more of us that bug Blue Chip, and more importantly, the more consumer vendors that bug Blue Chip about this, the more likely they are to consider actually doing it.
I just really don't understand the whole "security" issue. I mean...if you walk into a casino with a pocket full of $100 Martini Clubs....does it suddenly make you that more likely to 'get away with something' if the chips are 10 grams vs 8???? I mean, if I try and pass a $100 Martini Club at Bellagio....I'm pretty sure someone is going to notice...whether it's 8 or 10 grams. Somebody help me out on this one.
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:18 am GMT by ledavatar
| pokerchipreviews wrote: | I really don't see how Blue Chip can continue to only offer a lighter chip to the consumer market. With the Paulson back in town (like the design or not) you have a very well make clay chip at proper casino weighting.
The more of us that bug Blue Chip, and more importantly, the more consumer vendors that bug Blue Chip about this, the more likely they are to consider actually doing it.
I just really don't understand the whole "security" issue. I mean...if you walk into a casino with a pocket full of $100 Martini Clubs....does it suddenly make you that more likely to 'get away with something' if the chips are 10 grams vs 8???? I mean, if I try and pass a $100 Martini Club at Bellagio....I'm pretty sure someone is going to notice...whether it's 8 or 10 grams. Somebody help me out on this one.
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com |
I think some casino security systems use a digitized chip weighing system to as a secondary measure to count the # of chips and thus require the chips to be made in tight weight tolerances. The lighter weighting of the home market chips would set off those alarms.
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:29 am GMT by R Deckard
Somewhat off-topic--but I can't help but wonder whether the Endy family regrets selling the Paulson business and manufacturing process to GPI, what with the current poker frenzy. I think that if they could have foreseen what The Travel Channel started with the WPT, they may have thought twice about selling. Although I'm sure GPI paid them a nice chunk of change. . .
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:51 am GMT by circlencircle
| pokerchipreviews wrote: | I really don't see how Blue Chip can continue to only offer a lighter chip to the consumer market. With the Paulson back in town (like the design or not) you have a very well make clay chip at proper casino weighting.
The more of us that bug Blue Chip, and more importantly, the more consumer vendors that bug Blue Chip about this, the more likely they are to consider actually doing it.
I just really don't understand the whole "security" issue. I mean...if you walk into a casino with a pocket full of $100 Martini Clubs....does it suddenly make you that more likely to 'get away with something' if the chips are 10 grams vs 8???? I mean, if I try and pass a $100 Martini Club at Bellagio....I'm pretty sure someone is going to notice...whether it's 8 or 10 grams. Somebody help me out on this one.
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com |
I agree John, that's exactly why I asked Mike about it. His first response was "I don't think you will find any clay chips at 10 grams. Probably what you have has a metal slug". Of coarse I was quick to jump on that and pointed to Paulson and TRK. His response was a low disappointed grown. Anyway, I will mention it to him again as things progress with this.
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:59 am GMT by JHile31
| circlencircle wrote: | | pokerchipreviews wrote: | I really don't see how Blue Chip can continue to only offer a lighter chip to the consumer market. With the Paulson back in town (like the design or not) you have a very well make clay chip at proper casino weighting.
The more of us that bug Blue Chip, and more importantly, the more consumer vendors that bug Blue Chip about this, the more likely they are to consider actually doing it.
I just really don't understand the whole "security" issue. I mean...if you walk into a casino with a pocket full of $100 Martini Clubs....does it suddenly make you that more likely to 'get away with something' if the chips are 10 grams vs 8???? I mean, if I try and pass a $100 Martini Club at Bellagio....I'm pretty sure someone is going to notice...whether it's 8 or 10 grams. Somebody help me out on this one.
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com |
I agree John, that's exactly why I asked Mike about it. His first response was "I don't think you will find any clay chips at 10 grams. Probably what you have has a metal slug". Of coarse I was quick to jump on that and pointed to Paulson and TRK. His response was a low disappointed grown. Anyway, I will mention it to him again as things progress with this. |
i think this is really something we should work on with this group buy...if we can get enough support from people on this forum to help push 10g home chips from blue chip, maybe we can start the move toward 10g home chips...i mean i really dont see blue chips reasoning as far as security goes...if we can get blue chip to realize the potential sales volume increase they could get by increasing the weight of their home chips, and explain that there is no security issue, maybe blue chip would change their ways...personally, i think blue chip would be more sought after than paulson (atleast as far as home chips go) if they would increase home chips to 10g. i think the custom options that blue chip offers are the best you will find in clay chips. i mean lets put it this way....TEN, if blue chip were to increase their weight to 10g, wouldnt you have looked into blue chip for the pharoh chips? i mean then you could have had custom edgespots, colors, and i dont know about the different shaped inlays. it would probably all come down to the feel of the chips, as well as the customer service (which is obviously not too great right now at BC) i realize that it may be far-fetched to say that BC will make 10g clays for us, but i thinks its worth a shot. what do you guys think?
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:00 pm GMT by HELO
9 gram 10 gram - Just doesn't matter to me. To tell you the truth, i kind of like the fact my chip case is 650 grams lighter.
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:17 am GMT by Prettey Toney
I want some of those BC's with the chicks ass on them! I'd probably be in if they look similar to those. 
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:55 am GMT by The Nutz
| HELO wrote: | | 9 gram 10 gram - Just doesn't matter to me. To tell you the truth, i kind of like the fact my chip case is 650 grams lighter. |
Amen! 8)
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:14 am GMT by yeltzen
| circlencircle wrote: | | I agree John, that's exactly why I asked Mike about it. His first response was "I don't think you will find any clay chips at 10 grams. Probably what you have has a metal slug". Of coarse I was quick to jump on that and pointed to Paulson and TRK. His response was a low disappointed grown. Anyway, I will mention it to him again as things progress with this. |
Boy, I bet he LOVES when someone like you calls!
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:45 am GMT by Juliea344
LMAO!
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:18 pm GMT by circlencircle
Just a quick update. I am currently working on some mock ups. As soon as I have something substantial I will post them. I am still trying to get a deal together to create a custom mold but still nothing definite...
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:23 pm GMT by jtnt1096
| circlencircle wrote: | | Just a quick update. I am currently working on some mock ups. As soon as I have something substantial I will post them. I am still trying to get a deal together to create a custom mold but still nothing definite... |
Sounds good. I could possibly be interested in going in for 1000 chips if I like the mock-ups, etc., and the price is right.
Posted Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:28 pm GMT by circlencircle
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Posted Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:35 am GMT by cmill
Hey casinocom's site is back up after being down for a while. You custom Blue chipper's may want to check it out. Those are, I believe, Blue chip chips.
http://www.casinocom.com/ChipSale/newcustomedgespot.html
Posted Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:45 pm GMT by ncskiier
It says on the next page that they are custom "Top Hat & Cane" chips
http://www.casinocom.com/ChipSale/Helpcustom.html
That can't be right.
Posted Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:29 pm GMT by ott
They haven't updated that website since Dec. of last year.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:56 pm GMT by theredwave
I'd be interested in 700-1000 chips if this thing gets off the ground in the next couple of weeks.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:07 pm GMT by theredwave
Also, I just emailed casinocom.com about the edgespot chips and received this reply about 10 minutes later:
| Quote: | We are having our problems with computer equipment but we are still selling equipment. Will have an inventory of what we have left up by the end of this week.
Jack
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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:19 pm GMT by pocket snowmen
december 04' or december 03'?
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:24 pm GMT by ott
Hmmm.... is last year 03 or 04?
Posted Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:22 am GMT by pocket snowmen
yes i know but i thought it it was dec 04' you would have just said "since december" and that would have obviously been the last december. but if you said last december, i thought it could be referring to the year before. my fault.
Posted Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:49 pm GMT by boondocker96
hey what is the deal with the custom paulson casinocom.com page? are they ripping of the mold or are they the real deal?
http://www.casinocom.com/ChipSale/Helpcustom.html
Posted Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:52 pm GMT by ky70
| pocket snowmen wrote: | | yes i know but i thought it it was dec 04' you would have just said "since december" and that would have obviously been the last december... |
Good point
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