Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:36 pm GMT by circlencircle
I have been in contact with Matsui for the last couple of days and am currently working on a deal to purchase a large volume of Matsui clay and/or Decal chips if enough people are interested. This would be another group buy type situation that I would organize. It is still much too early to discuss specifics but was wondering generally how many people might be interested in a group buy?
I do not consider the pole to be any sort of commitment. It’s just to give me an idea about how people feel.
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Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:48 pm GMT by jojobinks
i can't guarantee i'd be involved or anything. but recently i got my sample set from them, and the only chip i'd ever buy of theirs is the clay. i like them a lot. that being said, i'll probably end up buying tenpercenters custom paulsons as seen here: http://tinyurl.com/6y6th
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:51 pm GMT by TenPercenter
if anyone doesnt have Matsui clay samples, I recommend getting some. I really REALLY like thm.
ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:04 pm GMT by R Deckard
I voted for the decal, since it seems we have enough nice clays floating about in various group buys, but no real "Bud Jones" -type chips. Plus, pokerchipreviews seems to like them a lot. Too bad he didn't review the clays as well.
A few questions:
1. How do you get samples? Email Matsui directly, or is there some U.S. retailer we can contact? Cost?
2. Can someone post some pics/reviews of the clays?
3. Pokerchipreviews says these (at least, the coin-centered) are "pretty expensive". What kind of general price range are we talking about for the group buy? At least, can you say more or less than $1.00/chip?
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:16 pm GMT by jojobinks
they're more than $1 a chip. i dont' have photos: my camera sucks, but i'll try to get some good ones.
email this guy. he took care of me: jinnysun@matsui-gaming.co.jp
edit: i managed to get some decent photos i'll get them up tomorrow some time (left the usb cable at work  ).
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:18 pm GMT by civiliste
I am really jonesin' for the Matsui decals. Since Bud Jones chips aren't available to the home market in any form (other than high-priced casino chips on eBay), I'd love a set of decals. Plus, I like the Matsui colors better, too. And, while Ten's Paulsons are tempting, I'm just not a fan of Paulson clays. I actually like T.R. Kings better than Paulsons for some reason.
Problem is, Law School is presently draining me of any financial resources (and will continue to do so for another year  ) If you do make this happen, I will do my best to scrape together the scratch get a set of the decals, though.
Good luck getting this moving.
-Zak
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:39 pm GMT by TenPercenter
| jojobinks wrote: | they're more than $1 a chip. i dont' have photos: my camera sucks, but i'll try to get some good ones.
email this guy. he took care of me: jinnysun@matsui-gaming.co.jp
edit: i managed to get some decent photos i'll get them up tomorrow some time (left the usb cable at work ). |
Get you a huge group buy and you can get them for cheaper, but not much. their best price is for over 50,000 chips, and it's not a whole lot of a discount.
Ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:39 pm GMT by circlencircle
| R Deckard wrote: | I voted for the decal, since it seems we have enough nice clays floating about in various group buys, but no real "Bud Jones" -type chips. Plus, pokerchipreviews seems to like them a lot. Too bad he didn't review the clays as well.
A few questions:
1. How do you get samples? Email Matsui directly, or is there some U.S. retailer we can contact? Cost?
2. Can someone post some pics/reviews of the clays?
3. Pokerchipreviews says these (at least, the coin-centered) are "pretty expensive". What kind of general price range are we talking about for the group buy? At least, can you say more or less than $1.00/chip? |
I’m still waiting for my samples but am confident of the quality, which is why I’m already trying to get this going. As for prices, I don’t have an answer for you yet. I have asked the Matsui sales department some specific question about this and various other details in email but was not given answers. I am quite adamant about this however, if I can get enough support from you all as far as quantity. My #1 goal will be design and a close second will be to get the absolute lowest price possible - I am on a somewhat limited budget as well. I think someone already posted this email address for samples but here it is again... Personally I am leaning to Clay's but I will not make a decision until a few more people have had a chance to see samples and I can pin Matsui down to specific pricing.
jinnysun@matsui-gaming.co.jp
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:53 pm GMT by gpc
Right now I feel that the clays are readily obtainable in TR King, Paulson, ASM and Blue Chip. What we need are the decal chips. The designs look awesome on pokerchipreviews.com. I can't believe that nobody is jumping them as far as retail sales. All I see is the coin centered chips with designs that do not appeal to me.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:54 pm GMT by ott
I think the only options on the clay Matsui is hotstamp. No inlays option.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:56 pm GMT by circlencircle
| gpc wrote: | | Right now I feel that the clays are readily obtainable in TR King, Paulson, ASM and Blue Chip. What we need are the decal chips. The designs look awesome on pokerchipreviews.com. I can't believe that nobody is jumping them as far as retail sales. All I see is the coin centered chips with designs that do not appeal to me. |
There is a secondary mission I'm working on that addresses the retail issue.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:21 pm GMT by TenPercenter
| ott wrote: | | I think the only options on the clay Matsui is hotstamp. No inlays option. |
I'm pretty sure they do inlays, although I have not seen them up close.
Ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:48 pm GMT by gmunny
| TenPercenter wrote: | if anyone doesnt have Matsui clay samples, I recommend getting some. I really REALLY like thm.
ten |
Hey Ten,
Can you post some pics? Thanks.
G$
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:55 pm GMT by ledavatar
I posted the pic on another thread before. Here it is again - the clay w/ inlay is on the far right. I'm a big proponent of Matsui clays, but the Decals is what really got my interest.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:14 pm GMT by TenPercenter
| ledavatar wrote: | I posted the pic on another thread before. Here it is again - the clay w/ inlay is on the far right. I'm a big proponent of Matsui clays, but the Decals is what really got my interest.
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Anyone know where I can lay my hands on some Matsui clays with inlays? (samples that is). The samples I got from the factory are plain, no inlay or stamp.
Ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:44 pm GMT by Nate PT
The decal chips are incredibly slick, and have more of a plasticy feel then bud jones do. I voted clay only.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:16 pm GMT by R Deckard
But do we really need another clay chip group buy? Especially if it's potentially going to be more expensive (and the U.S. dollar is weak now, to boot). I guess the only thing that would make it worth the effort and cost is if we can get much more flexibility in mold/color/inlay design than Paulson, and much higher quality/feel than Blue Chip/TRK/ASM.
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Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:42 pm GMT by ledavatar
Matsui clay chips are great, but they sell for the same price Paulson do (~$0.90 per chip), and I just feel that if I'm spending that much already, why not just get Paulsons? Also, though we will probably get flexibility with Matsui clays (by paying setup fees), I think they are just starting to experiment with inlaying chips (traditionally they've been all hotstamp) as the inlays are not in their catalogs. Would we pay that much per chip for a company with no experience?
I like their Decal chips. They are slick, but not in a bad way - they are very stackable. The chips certainly do not feel like plastic dice chips. Their look screams classy casino. The graphic capablities are unlimited if we're willing to pay for design changes.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:01 pm GMT by ott
| TenPercenter wrote: | | ott wrote: | | I think the only options on the clay Matsui is hotstamp. No inlays option. |
I'm pretty sure they do inlays, although I have not seen them up close.
Ten |
You may have seen samples with inlays, but according to the Matsui Catalog:
Quote:
"CLAY CHIPS ARE AVAILABLE IN STANDARD COLOURS AND ARE HOT STAMPED WITH A LOGO OF YOUR CHOICE."
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:18 pm GMT by TenPercenter
| ott wrote: | | TenPercenter wrote: | | ott wrote: | | I think the only options on the clay Matsui is hotstamp. No inlays option. |
I'm pretty sure they do inlays, although I have not seen them up close.
Ten |
You may have seen samples with inlays, but according to the Matsui Catalog:
Quote:
"CLAY CHIPS ARE AVAILABLE IN STANDARD COLOURS AND ARE HOT STAMPED WITH A LOGO OF YOUR CHOICE." |
I've talked to them and they will do inlays.
Here is a (bad photo) image that they just sent me to show that they do them.
Ten
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:21 pm GMT by ott
| TenPercenter wrote: | | ott wrote: | | TenPercenter wrote: | | ott wrote: | | I think the only options on the clay Matsui is hotstamp. No inlays option. |
I'm pretty sure they do inlays, although I have not seen them up close.
Ten |
You may have seen samples with inlays, but according to the Matsui Catalog:
Quote:
"CLAY CHIPS ARE AVAILABLE IN STANDARD COLOURS AND ARE HOT STAMPED WITH A LOGO OF YOUR CHOICE." |
I've talked to them and they will do inlays.
Ten |
If they do inlays, I'm sure you can get some clay inlay and hotstamped samples from Jinny @ Matsui.
Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:56 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
All I can say is....HURRRRRAY!!!!!!
I am waiting on the 'new' Clay chips from them. They told me a couple months ago that they were 'reworking' their clays and would send me some as soon as the new version was ready. I have no idea what 'reworking' means.
In the meantime, the Decals are just fantastic chips. Some of the best out there. Yeah...they are a bit on the slick side...but not all that bad. And the feel and design flexibility is just stunning. You *GO* CnC!!!!
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:06 am GMT by Wooderson
I just got samples of both. Ubah sweet.
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