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Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:27 pm GMT by krakajak
MTT, blinds 15/30. I have about 1,400 chips. I'm in EP with AKo. I raise to 120, and get 2 callers in late position.
The flop is KQJ. I bet the pot, one player calles, the other pushes.
1) how have I played the hand so far?
2) what do I do now?
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Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:38 pm GMT by ErinJeff
I fold here everytime to a push. You are beat by AT,T9,KK,QQ,JJ,KQ, KJ, and QJ, without considering any suits. These are hands that online players play against a preflop raise. You could discount the likelihood of KK,QQ,JJ; as those would likely have reraised you preflop. Out of position here I think you fold.
TPTK against that flop and 2 players is a risk. Plus I would figure that several of your outs are held by opps. What hand were you trying to represent by your flop bet? You don't have that much invested, live to fight again.
Posted Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:32 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| krakajak wrote: | 1) how have I played the hand so far?
2) what do I do now? |
1) Good, you now have solid hand, you have a lot of info. and it didn't cost you that much.
2) Fold. I'd be tempted to call if the board was Kxx or something, but with a board like that TPTK is no good. You have to be up agaisnt at least two pair.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:03 pm GMT by QuietOne
I love these answers. I love players who have rules like, alway fold here or always call here. wrong.
I agree that in most situations I would fold here but there are exceptions. First and most important is the other players who are in the hand with you and how have you been playing so far. You can not possibly answer this question without knowing this information.
If you have been playing loose all night, I guy with a small pair, lets say Jacks might push. Also, if I know the guy who pushed as been bluffing a lot or raising with average hands this might be a sign.
Like I said, proabaly fold here but anyone who really things they can make this call without know the players, the game, the chip count, etc, doesn't understand the game.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:59 pm GMT by NickFlynn
| QuietOne wrote: | I love these answers. I love players who have rules like, alway fold here or always call here. wrong.
I agree that in most situations I would fold here but there are exceptions. First and most important is the other players who are in the hand with you and how have you been playing so far. You can not possibly answer this question without knowing this information.
If you have been playing loose all night, I guy with a small pair, lets say Jacks might push. Also, if I know the guy who pushed as been bluffing a lot or raising with average hands this might be a sign.
Like I said, proabaly fold here but anyone who really things they can make this call without know the players, the game, the chip count, etc, doesn't understand the game. |
I see you are continuing your charm offensive.
Which part of "early in a MTT" didn't you understand? Calling an all-in with AK with that board and that action is clearly not the percentage play, absent some kind of psychic ability.
- Nick
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:09 pm GMT by badvb750
You gotta fold here, unless it's time for bed.  . You, might have this guy beat, but this isn't the hand to get all your chips in the middle.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:14 pm GMT by badvb750
| Quote: | | Calling an all-in with AK with that board and that action is clearly not the percentage play, absent some kind of psychic ability. |
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:54 pm GMT by Jauron
| QuietOne wrote: | I love these answers. I love players who have rules like, alway fold here or always call here. wrong.
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That is true, however given the information laid out, it's tough to do anything but give the standard answer.
How much of his stack is he calling off? How much is the reraise period? How has the guy pushing been playing? How about the guy calling behind you? How many chips does the guy behind you who is left to act have?
blah blah blah
I gotta fold here too with zero information.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:36 pm GMT by gol4pro
If you can name a single hand he pushes all in here that you have beat, I'd gladly let you call.
Truth is, what hand worth raising do you have beat?
First guy has JT/QT/KT, guy who pushed all in has QK/KJ or 9T.
Posted Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:30 am GMT by krakajak
Thanks, guys. I folded, so did the other guy, so we'll never know what he had.
Posted Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:00 pm GMT by Always_Bored
| krakajak wrote: | | Thanks, guys. I folded, so did the other guy, so we'll never know what he had. |
how well did you do in the tourney?
Posted Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:05 am GMT by krakajak
| Always_Bored wrote: | | krakajak wrote: | | Thanks, guys. I folded, so did the other guy, so we'll never know what he had. |
how well did you do in the tourney? |
Lasted a while, but didn't cash.
Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:31 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| QuietOne wrote: | I love these answers. I love players who have rules like, alway fold here or always call here. wrong.
I agree that in most situations I would fold here but there are exceptions. First and most important is the other players who are in the hand with you and how have you been playing so far. You can not possibly answer this question without knowing this information.
If you have been playing loose all night, I guy with a small pair, lets say Jacks might push. Also, if I know the guy who pushed as been bluffing a lot or raising with average hands this might be a sign.
Like I said, proabaly fold here but anyone who really things they can make this call without know the players, the game, the chip count, etc, doesn't understand the game. |
You are a mess. A lot of times you are not going to be playing long enough with the players to have a good enough read here.
I think you need to fold that hand. You may be winning, but more often than not, one pair is not going to get it done here.
Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:52 am GMT by Dakijeza
Even if someone's played loose, it doesn't mean they're doing it this time. You have to be a Certified Idiot to bluff after a pot bet and call with that flop. If the guy's shown himself to be a Certified Idiot, you still have to worry about the guy who called you.
Nope. I wanna better hand before I put that much money in the pot.
Posted Wed May 04, 2005 10:06 am GMT by AAceman
hi im dutch
whats a ninkenpoop?
just wondering
Posted Wed May 04, 2005 3:01 pm GMT by age_of_sages
Ninkenpoop, it's derogatory word generally used by small children or used to talk to small children. Once you get older it's generally replaced by words such as idiot, moron, etc...
I have not heard the word ninkenpoop in a very long time.
Posted Fri May 06, 2005 1:46 am GMT by AAceman
thanks for te explanation.
I hit a full boat to beat someone trips in an Sng.
and I ended up being called a ninkenpoop.
I just proceded to laugh my a$$ off but it left me wondering.
Thanks ageofsages.
Now to figure out what derogatory means 
Posted Fri May 06, 2005 11:15 am GMT by ibarrio
That smells like a straight. Early in a Tourney You need to fold.
Chip leader late in the game? Then you think about calling...
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