Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:36 pm GMT by badvb750
MTT blinds are 25/50
I am UTG with k  Q  and limp in
MP raise to 150
Button cold calls
I call
FLop Q  3  9
I lead out with 1/2 pot about 300
MP raises to 600
Button cold calls
Now, I'm kinda stuck either I re-raise or fold. I'm think MP has a bigger pair, AQ or AK. The thing that really scaries me is the cold call from the button cuase he either has a set or draw. I think the best play in the situation is to fold and pick a better spot later in the tourney. What do you guys thing?
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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:08 pm GMT by QuietOne
That's sort of limited info. Who are these guys, who do they play? What kinds of stacks do the other players and you have?
You have top pair / no flush possiblities and very limited straight possiblities. You have a good kicker. I would have probably called or gone over the top. Maybe an all-in.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:16 pm GMT by badvb750
This was MTT on stars, we were at level three and I just got moved there a few hands ago. So, I really didn't have a read on the table.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:28 pm GMT by QuietOne
I assume this is a NL tourney? In that case it would really depend on where you are in the game, what are the chips stacks and what do you hope to accomplish. Win or just get into the money?
The thing is, there is already 1350 in the pot and you only have to call 150 more. Good pot odds except there is 2 more cards to go.
If you don't have much left, I'd take the chance and go all-in. But if you've still got a lot of chips you got to figure this pot is going to grow. They way people are betting, I'd assume that by the end, someones going to be all-in. So now the question in: is m pair on Q's worth the rest of my chips?
My guess would be one of these 2 guys has a high pair.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:43 pm GMT by howzit
why wouldn't this be a fold?
Still low levels, I'm assuming average stacks, you got raised and called on a zero-draw board, and you're out of position against players w/no reads.
I'm folding. . .but I play tight early in tourneys when I'm not the one raising preflop.
yuck, and fold preflop. . .
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:50 pm GMT by NickFlynn
You are beat.
I think this is a pretty easy fold.
- Nick
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:22 pm GMT by badvb750
You guys are right, the fold was the correct play. I was beat by both guys. The raiser had AQ and the guy cold calling had a set of 33s.
However, it was late, I had test in the am and it was a $1 tourney. I re-raised all-in knowing I was beat.
I am just glad I'm getting better at putting ppl on hands.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:44 pm GMT by QuietOne
My basic thought was, yes fold. The only thing I was thinking differently is if he, lets say, only has 150 or so chips left. He's already so pot committed, why not and hope they are both on draws. Buy no, 99.99% of the time, fold.
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:40 pm GMT by gol4pro
That's why you don't play KQ out of position to a raise early in a tournament.
If you can raise it from late, KQ is just as good as AQ or AK, but if someone else is showing strength, GET THE HELL OUT.
On the flop, I still think I check this. The only hands that MP could reasonably have that you're ahead of is AK, JJ, TT. If he has any of those 3, he's probably going to make a fairly weak bet into the pot, and you can probably check raise him and get him to fold.
Plus you have to worry about the button. What's to say that he doesn't have AQ or a set of 3's/9's.
Even though this is a relatively good flop for KQ, there's still a greater than 50% chance you're behind IMO.
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