Did I play this wrong? Scare Turn |
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Posted Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:12 pm GMT by cowtown
Hey guys, I keep replaying this hand in my head. Here's the scenario.
Ice cold cards, 5k starting chips in a 28 man game, 25 people left, down to about 3200 from a few missed hands (AK missed, blinds, few missed 33's) after about 2 hours or so. I pick up pocket 6's on the button. Blinds are at $100-200.
Pre Flop goes like this.
Fold to Dealer -2 who smooth calls BB ($200)
I smooth Call ($200)
SB: - Smooth Calls BB ($200)
BB: Checks
Flop comes down. 7d, 6d, Qc
SB - Bets $200
BB - Folds
D-2 - Calls $200
Me - Raise to $750 (Trying to isolate from the flush
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SB - Humms and haws, and calls
D-2 - Calls quickly
Turn comes down. Ad
SB - Checks
D-2 - Bets $500 quickly
Me - Call $500
SB- Call $500
River comes down. 4c
SB - Checks
D-2 - Bets $1000
Me - Folds
SB - Calls
They turn over their cards...
D-2 had two pair A-Q no diamonds
SB had two pair Q-4 no diamonds.
What got me was the way D-2 was firing at the pot in the face of the diamond draw. The only thing I could see myself doing differently here was going all in on the flop, or at best sucking it up and re-raising on the turn, but that diamond was a definate scare card. I know I could have called, but how D-2 was betting made me believe he had the flush.
So what did I do wrong, is there any advice I can take away from this for next time?
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Posted Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:28 pm GMT by Iron Butt
I'd have gone all-in on the flop and been wanting to take it right there or at least get one more opponent out of the way. You can't like the straight and flush draws, you can't fold trips, and you're not giving up any money by scaring people out of the pot if you don't win. Make them make the tough decision.
Posted Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:08 pm GMT by Bleedingshrimp
Blinds being what they were, you not getting much in the way of hands to begin with, and that flush draw being present, I think you push it all-in on the flop. Not sure how much the rest of the guys had...but if your raise gets called(like it did) you almost have to lay down when diamonds hit on the turn. Then you find your chip stack diminished and the blinds escalating. If you go all in here and make your stand you don't have to worry about what to do on the turn or river. Let them decide how much their draws are worth.
Posted Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:02 am GMT by cowtown
Yeah, sadly there were no draws but I agree, I figured the 750 bet would be enough to shake the flushdraws, oddly, they weren't, they just had a pair of Q's.
As for chips, they both had about 2-3k more than I did, so almost twice in both cases. Like I had $2600ish left after my flop bet, the D-2 had probably 6k and the SB had probably about 7k or so.
I agree though, that's about the only thing I could think of. I probably would have gotten the AQ to call and I would have beat him too. The bad thing is, he went on to win the tournament, though I don't think he played well enough to do it, others made a couple of bonehead moves like me.
Thanks for the input, any more out there?
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