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Fire on the river or not



Posted Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:04 pm GMT by badvb750
MTT on stars third hand of the tourney 10/20 blinds

(ME) UTG+2 w/ Q Heart Q Spade raise to 80

button calls

FLop 4 Club 8 Heart 9 Diamond

I lead out with 200

Button Calls

Turn A Club

I lead out with 200

Button Calls

River is a blank

How would you guys proceed?


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Posted Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:29 pm GMT by suitedaces84
Fire (100 or so), mainly to represent something will keep him from raising. If you check here I think you're looking a big bet and tough decision.


Posted Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:41 pm GMT by badvb750
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Fire (100 or so), mainly to represent something will keep him from raising


Yeah, I fired out with a 200 bet, button called. He had KKs. Given the way he played it I don't think there is anything I could have done. I thought maybe a check-raise on the turn, representing AK. But, I was worried about AQ-Ax, so if he was a calling station that move makes no sense. I wish I floped a set, so I could have suck-outed his slow play.

Does anyone see a better way to play this hand?



Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:05 am GMT by Cheech3398
KKs


is that kings suited?



Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:48 am GMT by Always_Bored
Cheech3398 wrote:
KKs


is that kings suited?


i think it is plural. kings. but maybe they were suited.



Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:51 am GMT by howzit
if you're firing the last round, it better make the guy think. . .your river bet is way too small. checking is better


Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:27 pm GMT by badvb750
howzit wrote:
if you're firing the last round, it better make the guy think. . .your river bet is way too small. checking is better


If I check, I'm basically giving up the pot. Unless this guy is just that weak tight.



Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:17 pm GMT by howzit
so, you want to throw away 200 more chips knowing this guy is going to call w/a better hand?


Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:19 pm GMT by Always_Bored
howzit wrote:
so, you want to throw away 200 more chips knowing this guy is going to call w/a better hand?


exactly with his calling your previous 200 bets i would be sure he is going to call 200 more on the river. I think checking may admit defeat and give up the pot but it will also save you 200 bucks.



Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:27 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I would check the river.


Posted Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:00 pm GMT by badvb750
howzit wrote:
so, you want to throw away 200 more chips knowing this guy is going to call w/a better hand?


I see where you are coming from and are pretty much right. Sometimes I just get stubborn and don't want to let my chips go, so I throw away more. However, he could just as easily of had JJ, TTs or top pair.



Posted Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:43 am GMT by BeerWench13
Hard to say when it's only the 3rd hand in a tourney. You haven't had time to evaluate what type of player you're up against. I'd have probably checked on the river though. Why waste more chips early in a MTT?


Posted Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:00 pm GMT by Bleedingshrimp
I would be forced to check on the river in this situation. That ace overcard should have been a blessing in disguise. It would have slowed me down and I may have been inclined to also check that turn to get a feel for where I was in the hand. I have noticed that when the betting for a hand is a consistent bet/call, bet/call, bet/call..it usually means the person has a hand similar in nature to yours... maybe slightly better or maybe slightly worse. Most wouldn't hold onto a draw for that long.


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:03 pm GMT by Dakijeza
I check. The way it played out, I probably would have put him on A-x. Not K-K. The A might have been your savior on this hand. Slowed you down, slowed him down.


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:20 pm GMT by Always_Bored
Dakijeza wrote:
I check. The way it played out, I probably would have put him on A-x. Not K-K. The A might have been your savior on this hand. Slowed you down, slowed him down.


im sure he would have prefered his savior to come in the form of a Queen though. Smile






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