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trking weight and sound



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:39 pm GMT by JHile31
does anyone know or have any ideas as to how the trking chips weigh the full 10g, while other home chips weigh closer to 9, being that the trking chips are thinner and smaller in diameter? seems odd to me. also, i assume that the trking chips have the heavier sound like real casino chips because of their weight, is that correct?

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Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:53 pm GMT by PanthersHUTCH15
I don't really know how they weigh 10 grams, but I loved the feel, weight, and sound of the set that I owned. A tie for first for my favorite manufacturer.


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:06 pm GMT by Nanook
I don't know if others will agree, but I love these TR King chips! I have samples from about 15 different places on my desk including Paulsons. Most are Clay or Chipco ceramics and I like the TR Kings the best. I am really looking forward to seeing pics from the group custom buy that went on here a while ago.

As far as the correctness of the weight and size, TR Kings are the exact chips that have been used in real casinos all over the world for many years. In more recent years there has been a shift away from this manufacturer for real casino chips, but if you check the collector sites you will see many, many pictures of this chip.

I have personally weighed chips from all of the clay manufacturers and the TR King Small Crowns come in at exactly 10grams. The New Paulson James bonds weigh in at 9.7grams and I have personally weighed Paulsons from real casinos at 9.4 grams. The only real casino paulsons that I have are older ones so I can't say about newer ones.

As far as the thickness and the diameter: When I stack 10 TR Kings and set them next to 10 Paulsons ,real or otherwise, I can not detect any difference in the size of the stacks. It is true that the TR Kings are slightly smaller in Diameter. I do have a calipers and I could measure if anyone wants this, however I can tell you that there is VERY, VERY little difference. No one will ever say "hey these seem small"

I hope this helps,



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:30 pm GMT by B_rock
There is a post on this forum, where, I think Slowplay weighed and measured the popular clay chips. Do a search, it will be worth it.


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:59 pm GMT by Vu
Nanook wrote:
Quote:
As far as the thickness and the diameter: When I stack 10 TR Kings and set them next to 10 Paulsons ,real or otherwise, I can not detect any difference in the size of the stacks. It is true that the TR Kings are slightly smaller in Diameter. I do have a calipers and I could measure if anyone wants this, however I can tell you that there is VERY, VERY little difference. No one will ever say "hey these seem small
/quote

I am new to this board. One of the reason I lile this board is because I thought the information are objective and non-bias. Nannok's comment really challenges this assumption.

I have samples of TRK's and paulson's (new JB). I gave them to 8 of my nephews/nieces ( ages 4-8 ). All of them can detect the smaller size of the TRK easily. THE DIFFERENCE IS OBVIOUS. To be fair, I really like the feel of the TRK but I also hate its smaller size.

It is sad to realize that some information in this board are not as objective as I originally thought. I take the info with a grain of salt. My advice is to buy sample chips to compare them yourself before buying anything.



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:22 pm GMT by gmunny
Vu wrote:

I am new to this board. One of the reason I lile this board is because I thought the information are objective and non-bias. Nannok's comment really challenges this assumption.

I have samples of TRK's and paulson's (new JB). I gave them to 8 of my nephews/nieces ( ages 4-8 ). All of them can detect the smaller size of the TRK easily. THE DIFFERENCE IS OBVIOUS. To be fair, I really like the feel of the TRK but I also hate its smaller size.

It is sad to realize that some information in this board are not as objective as I originally thought. I take the info with a grain of salt. My advice is to buy sample chips to compare them yourself before buying anything.


Since when are boards and comments from board members supposed to be objective and non-biased? This is not the news, this is a place where members discuss and give their opinion on various topics. People will either agree or disagree.

Now, I have both TRK chips, Paulson chips, ASM and various other clay chips, and when you compare the chips, it is obvious that the TRK chips are smaller in diameter. I think someone posted the weights/measurements of some chips awhile back. Now it is my opinion, if you are playing with a set of TRK chips and with no other chips to compare to, you or others will probably not notice, or at least not be bothered by the size of the TRK chips. That is my un-biased, but very opinonated opinion. Laughing
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Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:45 pm GMT by slowplayray
Once again,

Chip Measurements.



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:16 pm GMT by PanthersHUTCH15
Quote:
Since when are boards and comments from board members supposed to be objective and non-biased? This is not the news, this is a place where members discuss and give their opinion on various topics. People will either agree or disagree.



He is right. The reason I come to this board is for opinions on various poker related topics--mostly poker products.

On the case of the size of the TR Kings, I noticed right away, as did most in my home game, WHILE handling samples of other chips at the same time. But, to me, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Also, did you notice the difference in size while playing around with samples from other manufacturer's?? If that is the case, it is VERY easy to tell the difference. However, if you own a set of these and use them in a game full of ONLY TR King chips, the size difference dissappears.



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:44 pm GMT by tomb1
Almost all the cheap imported chips are 40mm (which is the standard size outside the US).


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:26 pm GMT by warewulf619
PanthersHUTCH15 wrote:

He is right. The reason I come to this board is for opinions on various poker related topics--mostly poker products.

On the case of the size of the TR Kings, I noticed right away, as did most in my home game, WHILE handling samples of other chips at the same time. But, to me, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Also, did you notice the difference in size while playing around with samples from other manufacturer's?? If that is the case, it is VERY easy to tell the difference. However, if you own a set of these and use them in a game full of ONLY TR King chips, the size difference dissappears.


Ditto!

My BIASED opinion:

If you compare other chips to tr kings, of course you're going to notice they're larger. Use only tr kings in your game and nobody will ever notice a difference. Even if they did, WHO CARES! You can't get custom Paulsons and no other custom clay comes close to these.



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:30 pm GMT by Nanook
Wow,

I never thought that I would get ripped so hard for 4 tenths of a millimeter.

Quote:
I am new to this board. One of the reason I lile this board is because I thought the information are objective and non-bias. Nannok's comment really challenges this assumption.


Anyway, like it was said above, get samples yourself and see what you think. See slowplays link too. I have not verified that link for accuratness of the weights and diameters, but I would think slowplay has done an accurate job.

If 4 tenths of a millimeter really bothers you, then don't buy them. It is that simple. Yes, if I put one right next to the next I can tell the difference too. After all 4 tenths of a millimeter is about the thickness of 5 very thin sheets of copy paper. I just do not think that if you buy these and play with them that it would bother you or your friends.

Here is my OPINION: I happen to like TR Kings.

Just to be fair I also happen to be a fan of many of the other old style molds like the small and large Key, "H" Mold, "T" Mold, Arrow Die, Horseshoes, Harps, Hub etc etc.

AB



Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:45 pm GMT by slowplayray
It amazes me how many people care about 1/2 a millimeter difference. I mean, who cares? Who or what defines "standard" size? They all accomplish the same purpose, so if you like the chips - buy them, if you don't - don't! Once you play one game with ANY set of chips, that becomes what feels "normal" to you. Rolling Eyes


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:32 pm GMT by Prettey Toney
I Heart little chips!!!!!!


Posted Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:23 pm GMT by johndsoares
I have a set of 850 TR King chips. I have a sample set of paulson and have used chips made by bud jones and chipco. Personally I love my TR Kings. I can see how some people would prefer a paulson and a paulson is a GREAT chip. However keep in mind that they are different. Both are TOP of the line chips and I would be willing to bet you would be happy with either.


Posted Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:50 pm GMT by JHile31
thanks for everyones posts, although im not sure how everyone got off track...i already knew about slowplays measurements, which is why i said in my original posts "being that the trking chips ARE thinner and smaller in diameter." i was just wanting to know if anyone knew what made them heavier even though they are smaller, even if it is just a small fraction. also, how does the sound compare to casino chips, or high end home. i have some casino paulsons, and i assume they sound close to the same as those. anyone know?


Posted Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:43 pm GMT by tomb1
OK, sound....

Well, you can listen for yourself if you go to http://www.pokerchipreviews.com/chipreviews.html and play John's videos. The TRKings are on Chip Comparison #2, but listen to them all.

I think the TRKs sound almost the same as Paulsons. Not exactly the same, but close. They sound a little bit higher (more treble) to me, and a little bit "harder," although that word doesn't exactly fit.

Certainly the TRKs sound to be of equal quality IMO, not like the cheap plastic dice chips.

As far as being thinner, TRKs aren't -- at least the samples I have. According to my calipers, they are exactly the same thickness (within a few 1000ths of an inch) as the Sample Paulson JBs. But some of my real casino chips (especially older Paulson standard inlays) are a hair thicker than either the TRKs or the JBs, but again in the 1000ths of an inch range. And some well-used old casino chips are a hair thinner.



Posted Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:50 pm GMT by slowplayray
I don't have any JB Paulsons to compare, but T.R. Kings sound the closest to my Foxwoods Paulsons of any chip I have - much duller "thud" than Blue Chip and ASM; those sounds a little higher-pitched to me. They do have good heft too, noticably heavier/denser than Blue Chip and ASM and probably a tiny bit heavier than the Foxwoods Paulsons. They are a quality chip, and as long as you likes the mold style and looks, I do not think you would be disappointed with the sound and feel. Definitely my favorite chips.

Now WHERE are my custom Kings Crowns?!?!?! The suspense is starting to get to me.



Posted Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:53 pm GMT by B_rock
Hey WareWolf, did you walk across the street and grab your chips yet?? Hmm??


Posted Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:55 pm GMT by warewulf619
I'm thinking of calling him tomorrow and tell him I'll pick mine up. That way I can take pics of yours before they even go out.

Smile



Posted Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:30 am GMT by slowplayray
warewulf619 wrote:
I'm thinking of calling him tomorrow and tell him I'll pick mine up. That way I can take pics of yours before they even go out.

Smile


make sure you put a warning label on that post for those of us who don't want to ruin the surprise! Confused



Posted Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:07 am GMT by gpc
I don't need a warning. I just need a little fix to get me by. Just a little. Anything


Posted Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:27 am GMT by slowplayray
My weekly game is tonight. Odds my chips will show up today?


Posted Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:10 pm GMT by warewulf619
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